arn't that the truth. Ever try and bend code 40 flex? I never did use that stuff after the first trial. I've handlaid my share of track and unless you are looking for that uber rustic look and in any scale larger than HO I'd stay away from it. I don't mind doing it, I just don't care for the look, in HO scale. I modeled narrow guage at a time when code 70 flex was the standard and I wanted the 55 look. Then Railcraft(?) or Micro engineering came out with thier small stuff that looked great, but had the flexability of re-bar. Talk about milking a cow. I just started modeling standard guage and just ordered some CV strips and ties to use on my shelf layout, which I'm rather anxious to try out. I do like the flexability availed when handlaying a turnout, but if the CV TOs work like they say they do, I doubt I'll be handlaying anymore. Well, even with the CV stuff, you still are kinda handlaying track. However, I DO like the twig tie trick. If I were building an O scale logging line, that would be choice.