I have been advised by Bravenet that the end of free web hosting is coming. Here is the dialog I have had with them. Bravenet Support [Steve] November 02, 2001 [07:11:00] Crosswinds has placed restrictions on email and other services in the last 60 days and plan more, Geocities is going pay, Angelfire is also planning on going pay, Tripod is almost broke and ready to pack it in, FortuneCity (who used to own part of Bravenet) is about 6 weeks away from bankruptcy. Free services are falling off the web at an ever increasing rate. FTP is being reserved for pay accounts since pay accounts directly cover the cost of the bandwidth they use, free accounts do not. Member [Robin Matthysen] November 02, 2001 [04:11:02] I think you are wrong when you say the days of free hosting are coming to an end. Only a few like you and Homestead. Ocatch is similar to your effort. Why are you disalowing ftp programs from updating my web site? I know I can do it through file manager but I am just used to ftp use. Bravenet Support [Steve] November 02, 2001 [10:11:48] The day of free hosting is quickly coming to an end.. however, WE still offer free hosting, the only change is the file limits. Member [Robin Matthysen] November 01, 2001 [08:11:19] Those of us that have a web site just to support a hobby or personal interest do not wish to pay to have our website hosted. Myself included. You are going in the same direction as Homestead and how long will you provide the limited free hosting? Homestead did that earlier and now they have locked all free sites so no updates or changes can be made. I know that Tripod, Angelfire,Crosswind, Geocities, Fortunecity to name a few that offer very good free hosting. I came to Bravenet because of the help you provide to web authors. Now you are resricting me. I will not pay for web hosting nor do I want to go through the bother of moving my site again. It has moved 4 times since inception not through any fault of mine. I will not move it again so will see what cause and effect you restrictions will have on it. Over 30000 hits has given you some free advertising through your toppers etc. Oh well, enough griping. I know what I have to say will make no difference to your decisions. Under these circumstances, my web site will come to an end. Any thoughts on this topic?