Fly Model/Gomix 1:100 Surcouf Cruiser Submarine

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  1. Fishcarver

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    1. French Cruiser Submarine “Surcoufâ€
    2. Scale 1:100
    3. Publisher and model number Gomix/Fly Model #139
    4. Designer: Piotr Turalski
    5. Distributor: Lighthouse Model Art et al

    The one-of-a kind French cruiser submarine “Surcouf†was the largest submarine in the world in the years leading up to WWII. Designed as a long-range commerce raider, (and named after an 18th C pirate) not only did Surcouf carry the usual complement of submarine weapons, it also featured two 8†(230mm) guns with a range of 30 miles, and a hangar for a MB-411 reconnaissance seaplane. (This was necessary to help spot the fall of shells from the big guns as the sub lay too low in the water for shot to be spotted beyond 16 miles!) For further historical info, see http://groups.msn.com/Surcouf .

    Gomix/Fly Model has done a creditable job in reproducing this unusual weapons system in 1/100 scale. The kit itself is a 15-page 11 x 17 booklet, with a handsome cover illustration by naval artist Grzegorz Nawrocki (www.SubArt.com) . There are 3 pages of history and instructions (in Polish), with drawings and templates for masts and antennas, 6 pages of 80# paper to be laminated to various thicknesses of cardstock, 4 pages of 90# cardstock, and a backing page of 1.5mm stock. Parts count is just over 400.

    This is a BIG model ( but Surcouf was a big submarine!!): 110cm long x 9 cm wide x 9.5 CM deep (less masts). Print quality and registration are very good. A lot of the smaller parts cry out for photoetching!! It is a full-hull kit, with no provision to be built up as a waterline model. Construction is “skin panels over egg crateâ€. The level of detail is very high: guns elevate, the turret traverses, and the seaplane, with crane and hangar, looks nicely done.

    If there is a major drawback to this kit, it is that the research process on the operational colour scheme did not go far enough. The cover painting by Grzegorz Nawrocki shows the Surcouf in its as-launched “Horizon Grey†scheme, yet the superstructure of the model is printed in a dark green (no doubt after the model in the Musee de la Marine in Paris: which is incorrect : see “Surcouf Colours†at http://groups.msn.com/Surcouf.) When I get around to actually building this, I will either have to re-master the green parts in Photoshop, or paint them to get the proper shade of “Dark Prussian Blue†(basically, Payne’s Grey) . There is no weathering.

    As a beginner at card modeling , I definitely want to hone my card-modelling skills and tune up my somewhat-rusty fine-scale scratchbuilding techniques before tackling this project: but I am looking forward to it. No doubt there will be more to follow!

    This will be an interesting ,welcome, and challenging addition to the collection of any submarine modeler.

    Regards!
    Jim
    “Fishcarverâ€






  2. Gil

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    Jim,

    I also acquired he Surcouf and was somewhat dismayed that the paint scheme was nicht zu gut...., might be that the intent was to sell them at the museum. I came to the same conclusion and put the model back for a rainy day.

    Mounting big guns on submersible platforms seems to have been in vogue at the time (Jules Verne was more practical than these guys). Finally dawned on everyone that you only had one shot before you became the target not to mention trying to fire a big gun from such a small platform. Must of knocked the screws off each time they fired the thing...,

    Tim tuned us in on the British side regarding their efforts at mounting large guns on "sinkable" platforms. As I remember the tampion wasn't removed from the barrel before they fired it on their test boat. The barrel exploded in such a way that it spun out a cable from the mount to the place in the Sea where the other end landed and sank effectively anchoring the submarine in place until they were able to cut the cable. Big guns were wrapped with high tensile cables in those days as the metallurgy hadn't quite got around to handling the enourmous forces put on them.

    Best regards, Gil

    P.S. Maybe Tim can post the URL where the British history segment is.
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    Thanks for the links Tim.

    Some cracker photos in them, they have gone into my favorites already.

    Thanks

    Rob
  5. Fishcarver

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    Seems that ship has had quite a history in my local town of Halifax.
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    Seems that ship has had quite a history in my local town of Halifax.
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    Operation Catapult

    Steve: Indeed it did! "Surcouf" was used to bring about the capture of St Pierre et Miquelon, without which U-Boats would have quite possibly had even freer access to the Gulf of St Lawrence.

    Jim
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    Operation Catapult

    Steve: Indeed it did! "Surcouf" was used to bring about the capture of St Pierre et Miquelon, without which U-Boats would have quite possibly had even freer access to the Gulf of St Lawrence.

    Jim