F1 Exhaust Detailing

Discussion in 'Space & Aeronautics' started by George B, May 30, 2007.

  1. SAustin16

    SAustin16 Member

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    Thank You Tex !

    That makes a lot of sense, especially the way you explained it. That explains why the wrap-around air scoops were deleted prior to the operational launches. They probably would have only increased drag and weight.
  2. jleslie48

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    I love the detail, can you provide a bit of instructions/tutorial on exactly what is
    the "dry brush "weathering" technique " and how you did your F1 engines?
  3. George B

    George B Senior Member

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    Dry Brush Technique "How To"...sort of.

    It's really simple. You start with a stiff brush, dip it in thinned down water based paint then blot out the excess (photo 1). The drier the brush the better the result, hence the name.

    Holding the brush at an almost upright angle to the surface, LIGHTLY pass over the surface to be detailed moving in one direction only (photo 2). At the end of the stroke lift the brush up and make a second pass. It's better to start moving then make contact with the surface then lift the brush from the surface while moving. The idea is to not stop, also it is important to make sure you apply VERY light pressure.

    Hope this helps. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask. :)
  4. ekuth

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    Yup, that's exactly it. I used to do this alot on my p*****c models to add realism... never thought about doing it to paper ones, though! :-D
  5. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

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    Picture for exterior research

    See attached research picture.

    Carl
  6. George B

    George B Senior Member

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    Carl, is that at the KSC? I'm headed there at the end of the month...looking forward to it!
  7. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

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    Yes!

    Please write me a P.M. with Your email. I will give You a few pointers before You go, (But it will be tomorrow morning, before I will be able to respond in detail). I know some folks that You may want to talk to before Your visit.

    Carl
  8. Nando

    Nando Designer Extraordinaire

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    Carl, I'm planning a trip to the Cape me too the last week of july. I'm Italian and some hint from You will be very useful.
    It will be for me a pilgrimage to the Moonport and I would like to take the maximum advantage from this trip.

    Thans in advance,
    Nando
  9. sergiotang95

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    Thanks for the new technique! I would've never thought of that. The effects are great!
  10. jleslie48

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    here's some more:

    http://jleslie48.com/nasa0510/contactsheet.html


    thanks for the dry-brush description, I'll be using it in the future.
  11. George B

    George B Senior Member

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  12. Greelt

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    F1 exhaust modification

    Inspired by George B. i modified the internal cone of the F1 engine.

    If you think this may be useful, please PM me and i will send you the file.

    With a BIG thanks to George B.

    Greelt
  13. Hans Christian

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    Wow!!! Thanks sir!!!

    Are the mods now available at sir Jon's site? :-D
  14. SAustin16

    SAustin16 Member

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    Greelt,

    That looks FANTASTIC !!! Your Saturn V is truly a masterpiece...and getting even better with time.
  15. Ewald Haruksteiner

    Ewald Haruksteiner New Member

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    Hy, all friends of the SATURN
    Hy, Greelt

    The modification on the internal cone of the F1 engine looks great,
    but I think it should be a lot darker.

    I also started with my first F1-engine and I made a little modification:
    I added rings to the outside of the cone.
  16. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

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    Looks Great!

    Have You done all (5)?

    Carl
  17. Ewald Haruksteiner

    Ewald Haruksteiner New Member

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    Hy, Carl

    No, at the moment I made just this one.
    For the future I'm planning the hole Saturn V
    (I'm waiting for Greelts next work).

    The rings were done by two layers of 300g/m² lightgrey paper.
    After the foto was done, I added a third layer and
    drew the little clamps with a fineliner.
    It's all a test. The final work will be more accurate.

    Greetings from Austria
    Ewald
  18. George B

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    Ewald,

    The rings look great, you're thinking along the same lines I was. I have yet to modify the engines, I jumped ahead and mounted them. They can still be worked on it's just going to be a little harder.

    Great work!!!
  19. SAustin16

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    I haven't starte building, but was wondering when someone would attempt the rings. Ewald, you did a superb job. Very detailed. Sehr Schon.