Eastern Tn logging on the DG CC & W RR 1928

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    SMLA-1 rf w sklts 1.jpg skylights in.. found roofing

    making progress, and I have more roofing supplies than I thought.


    I'd prefer to have the scale size pieces of tin roofing, but I have some big sheets of V grove from William's, so that is what I'll be using
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    SML CC EH R  PWD 1.jpg SML CC EH R  PWD 2.jpg SML CC EH R  PWD 3.jpg yesterday I cut sheets of metal roofing to fit the front section of roof, painted them black inside and out, then painted the outside green; and glued them to the front section of roof with some rubber cement (from my automotive tire repair supplies.


    I have yet to go through that onerous process for the back section of roof, which is a;most impossible to see due to the sloped ceiling. I will need to do it though, as this building will scream for interior lighting once the interior details are in place; interior lighting would certainly call attention to the lack of roofing material in the back.


    Here are some preliminary pictures the roof will need some touch up and weathering. I included one of the camera on the ground photo's that Dr Tom likes.


    Bill Nelson
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    Bill,

    That is a beautiful model. I really do like the eye level shot. The color scheme is also very nice,

    Keep up the good work!!!!

    Doc Tom
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    SML HNG 1a.jpg SML HNG 1b.jpg SML HNG 1c.jpg Hinges! well a hinge one down 29 to go.

    Thanks Tom,

    I haven't regretted changing my RR building colors to white and green from Red and black . I am satisfied on the white and green look, and it seems to work on everything but water tanks, so they are just green, although I have a few red ones arounf d some where.

    I was looking at the HOn3 chat croup @ Yahoo, and got an idea for the hinges. I'm splitting the difference between his method, and the one that I have used for donkeys, which is too much work. OK when you need 4 or eight, but less so when you need 30 as I do for the engine house.

    I have knocked out the first hinge, and started the second, this is going to be a long process, but working doors will help make this building special.



    doing yard work, I harvested the crepe myrtle stalks that I use for logs. when I get to making loads I think I'll try to spit this years production between the club, and my home rr, which seems to always need more log loads, it will be worse than usual, as i have put 6 new C&S log cars into service, and have some eight or more truss rod flats in a work drawer.


    Bill Nelson
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    Logs for flat cars

    Hey Bill,

    Thought you might like to see your dad's old "foam" logs on the scratchbuilt LRRR logging flat. I am shooting for 15 foot logs on a 30 foot flat car. The prototype LRRR cut 16 foot logs for most of their loads according to my reading. I think they also must of had 32'- 36' logging flats........need more research.

    Doc Tom

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    SMLA-1 cd55-cd70 rl jnt.jpg a close up

    here is a detail section from that photo Tom likes, showing a code 50 - code 70 rail joint. this stuff is priceless!


    Bill Nelson
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    Great picture!!! Looks like a large scale photo. I can see ants on the rails and crickets on the ties.

    Keep up the good work.

    Tom
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    Tom,

    I think those Styrofoam logs came with the log wagon that came with the steam traction engine.

    along side of my driveway , there is a thicket of appropriately sized trees with good bark detail, that could be thinned seriously without any aesthetic or ecological loss, so when you know exactly what length logs you want, let me know. If we plan in advance , I can have a sharp chain on my chain saw , so it doesn't chew up the ends of the logs to much . We should be able to get plenty enough logs for your log cars. Then we can start looking for binder chains.


    Bill Nelson
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    Great idea!!! I will be making some precise measurements probably this weekend.

    An interesting bit of trivia I learned from the LRRR newsletter........during the hey day of the wooden flat with truss rods the LRRR only had 30 flat cars. Heck you already got that many on your RR and that many are at the club.

    I have 4 of the thirty for the large scale layout. The small number of flats probably explains that the common train length of the LRRR in photos I have seen are about 4 or 5 flats behind a Shay and NO caboose.

    Here is another picture of the scratchbuilt flat with foam logs.

    Time to turn this thread back over to DGCC&W.

    Doc Tom

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    I don't know about that, After 20 something years of close association, and mutual inspiration I don't think that thorough documentation of the DG, CC, & W RR can be accomplished with out a reference to corresponding efforts on the other side of Sand Ridge,

    Bill Nelson . (Time to try to fit some engine house doors before taking a nap).
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    HI Bill .Love all the detail of the beautiful model
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    SML A-1 EH h & d 1-a.jpg SML A-1 EH h & d 1-b.jpg SML A-1 EH h & d 1-c.jpg SML A-1 EH h & d 1-d.jpg

    Thanks,


    once a year or so I have a project that attains a life of it's own ; and forces me to keep pushing the envelope, as each step comes out better than I had hoped for. This is one such model, and my Surry parker loaders (In the your unique logging equipment thread in this logging section) was the last , and this is a big project that is making use all the tricks I have learned over the years and learn new ones two.

    I like to document these big projects step by step, to share the techniques, and to help folks know that if you break it down to little steps, they can do it too (it may take some practice)


    Bill Nelson
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    Bill. The hinged doors are "way cool." Very good pics.

    This will be a neat model to take some close up shots on. Heck you could do a whole photo shoot of your nice steam lokies paying their visits for routine maitenance.

    Do you have some detail parts in mind for inside the shop???

    Doc Tom
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    Nicely done!
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    SMLA-1 EH Junk.jpg SML A-1  RH dtls #2.jpg SML A-1 dtls frm Bmpss.jpg Yes Tom . I have lots of stuff here is a bag of stuff that is downstairs that is meant for the area including the sawmill, car shops, turntable, and engine house. That stuff is in the top photo.

    The second photo has some locomotive pieces and a roundhouse details set from SS Limited, that is still in the bags, so they don't photograph well, plus some random details.

    The third photo has boxes of details that came off the Bumpass modules, and has yet to find it's way back onto the RR. Nuch of that came from the enginehouse scene there, which had more details per sq. in. than the rest of the area.


    there is more, some of it painted, much that needs to be painted and assembled. I also have a some stuff like Grant Line smokestacks, and locomotive parts, and a Rio Grande models hoist, that were picked up specifically for this project, so I should be able to clutter it up pretty well.

    I have some of the LEDs like I used to light up my churches and the water powered sawmill, and I will have to devise and some plugs, so that I can hang some LEDs on the frame, and plug them in to a 12 volt power source on the layout. It should be epic, once it starts to get close to the finish line ( you know I never finish anything.)


    Bill
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    Whoa!!! Them are a lot of detail parts. Where are you going to have room to park the locomotives?:mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Looking forward to seeing it all in person and maybe getting some extreme close up shots.

    The LEDs are a very good idea too. I like what you did with the churches.

    Keep up the good work:thumb:

    Doc Tom
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    Room for engines?

    I figure there will have to be room in the center stall for #22, my Gem 2-4-4-2.


    #14 the PFM Climax, if I use it as planned for a mountain passenger locomotive will get the back stall.

    #8 the mill switcher the MDC shay with the monster gear reduction motor will sleep in the front stall. It will be working all day long every day around crooked creek, and that stall, which is on the lead with the ash pit and clean out rack, will be available all day for locomotives from elsewhere on the system to drop in for minor maintenance.


    That is the plan so far.
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    That is the advantage of 44 years of modeling in the same scale. stuff just kind of builds up.


    I remember a series of articles that Dave Farry (sp) , and Bob, Hayden (SP?) did in the RMC when I was a kid. they used AHM Hon2.5 stuff to make a portable mini layout for a friend to take to conventions. It was filled up with more details than I could imagine. They said all of the details came out of their junk drawers, and I couldn't imagine that, but I am there now.


    Bill Nelson
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    hinges.

    while watching the Chicago-Detroit hockey game (Chicago lost giving Nashville the 5th seed). I soldered 8 tubes on straps, trimmed the straps to size, and then trimmed the tubes to size. This leaves me with 8 hinges, which will be enough to do another four doors, to fill the remaining two openings in the Southern side of the engine house; after I drill two mounting holes in each strap. when that is done I will be close to half done with the hinges.



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    after working all night I came home and drilled two mounting holes in the strap of eight engine house door hinges. Then I strung them all on a thread and suspended them in some chemical blackener.

    I now have enough hinges to hang doors in the the other two openings in the Southern wall of the Crooked Creek engine house. Time foe me to go to bed though, I'll have to do that later.


    Bill Nelson