Eastern Tn logging on the DG CC & W RR 1928

Discussion in 'Logging, Mining and Industrial Railroads' started by Bill Nelson, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. gbwdude

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    The rebel loggers (Bill and Tom),

    Made it up to Wisconsin just fine, even my daughter took the 13 hour trip superbly (she's a year old as of today!). A buddy and I went to a military show that they had up here and had a blast. Most of the stuff was WW2 and Vietnam but still cool, they had a few reenactments too.

    A couple days ago I went out to my grandparents to see what the WRRy had in storage... man who knew I'd store (let alone buy) so much stuff. I was digging stuff out I didn't think I had and almost bought a second time over. As sad as it is though, the one depot I was going to use in my first section was destroyed thanks to my uncle who needed to use the area for his storage needs. It was the first depot I built, a simple Bachmann Plasticville one that I weathered (horribly) with spray paint. Anyways after reconnoitering all of the WRRy's equipment and my Hiawatha set I have two big boxes of stuff which hopefully there will be enough room in the car for everything.

    Also on the cabooses, the center cupola one could be repainted and as for the bay window it'd have to be stripped somehow. I may break down and try the Chameleon stuff... still not sure what I'm going to do with it yet.

    I'll have to introduce all the guys up north... err here... to the wonderful world of Zealot. I think they'll like it.

    Tyler
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    Hi Tyler,

    I am glad you had a safe trip and are getting some R&R & railroading too.

    Looking forward to seeing some of your saved favorite RR stuff.

    Enjoy your friends and family.
    Doctor Tom
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    Tyler,

    glad you made that leg of your trip safely. It is fun to dig through stuff that has been packed away. There are always surprises, some pleasent and some otherwise.

    enjoy your vacation, and have a safe return leg of the trip.


    Bill
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    I got the trucks and couplers on the Labelle coach. I just need to get the truss rods and some roof details on it and it will be ready to go. the Labelle web site is back up and functioning, and I was studying it, and these kits are much cheaper than I thought, I must have seen the price on an O scale kit. the Ho passenger car lits run close to $30.00 without trucks and couplers. very fine kits. this cut down coach I started on maybe 20 years ago is coming out better than the combine I built 35 years ago. It has me wondering if I should cut down a baggage car and a business car to match.

    I got the handrails for the MDC cars painted (I had painted some of them to look rusty, and that will never do now). So I'm close to doing final assembly work on both strings of passenger cars.


    Bill Nelson
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    Hey there Bill,

    Looking forward to some more pictures.

    Doc Tom:thumb:
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    SML A labelee cars  a-3.jpg Here you go.

    not a great photo, but on most I have picked up too much shine from the car sides. it aksi doesn't show the much improved hand rails (brass castings)


    Bill
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    Bill,

    The coaches look great!!! I like the interior and the clean overall look.....so different than the weathered look of years past. Also neat trick painting the trucks the same color as the coaches. Really dresses them up. Nice choice of colors too.

    Doc Tom:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
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    SML A LBLL PSS CS #3.jpg SML A llbl pss cr tn # 4.jpg SMLL A LBLL PASS CS #5.jpg Thanks Tom. this two car train may change things on the mountain, as They will probably stay together, while the combine has served much like a caboose for the last 30 years.

    I thought the pullman green trucks would be a nice touch. These now just need to get a few figures in them , and then they will be ready to get the roof's glued on ( with tachy glue, so they can be cut off without damage). as soon as I glue the roof on the combine I will find that elusive interior dividing wall. Here are some more picks from more a controlled lighting setting


    These photo's show why I love these kits so much even though they are a buggerbear to build


    Bill
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    Very nice!!!!

    Doc Tom:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
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    Those cars look great being pulled behind a 4-4-0. The DG CC & W has sure got a fantastic carshop!

    As a sidenote, a while back the WRRy had purchased a LaBelle business obs for the bigwigs to roam around. It still needs to be assembled though, but I think I'll do that one down range.

    Tyler
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    SML  A  MDC FLT #@.jpg SmlA  MDC PSS FLT amst  rdy.jpg I have the end rails on the MDC cars now ten years into their service, I don't have little boys who will knock them off. I need to drill the roofs and install smokejacks, and add the brake staffs. I'm holding off on that, as the brakewheels supplied are pretty crude, and some Grant line brakewheels would be a big improvement.

    Bigging through my stuff I found some Rio Grande models white metal castings of deer antlers, I need to study up on how to fasten them securely; probably drilling a hole and pinning them with a brass rod, and adding some JB quick; but #1 definitely needs some antlers on the headlight.

    I was looking at the Ye olde Huff and puff site yeasterday, and they sell a kit for a truss rod open roof stock car. These cars look very much like what was used to haul bark to the Tannery on some outfits; so I may have a solution to that rolling stock problem. If I built some bark cars, that might get me working on the Southside of Harlow again.
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    SML A  #1 w ant #2.jpg SML A  #1 w ant#1.jpg Antlers!

    I broke a micro drill bit in the process, but with JB quick, a tiny hole in the headlight and the antlers, some phosphor bronze wire, the great skill of Eric @ Rio Grande Models; and the grace of God. #1 has her antlers!
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    The deer antlers on a American seem to be meant for each other. On proto photos and on models they always look great. Keep up the great work Bill!
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    SML A nw pss flt @ Hlw TN..jpg SML A SOU pass flt  @  SS.jpg SML A @ 22 nds a RR also.jpg SML A #21 nds a RR.jpg I have moved The MDC passenger cars up to the RR room to clear space on my work bench, Sine they are mainly Valley division cars, ( I may cut some cars off tho continue up the mountain from Crooked Creek).


    Here is a photo of the cars in front of the Harlow Tn Terminal. I also took a picture of my Southern Railroad passenger cars , I'm not sure what they are doing behind #9 over in Southside, unless I was testing to see how well they will track with their new wheelsets.


    Looking around for stuff to do I noted that #22 and # 21, my 2-4-4-2s don't have red roofs yet. This cannot stand! so that has to go on the list of stuff to do. I took a mini vacuum cleaner up to the RR room. so soon I can clean out the cobwebs from the enginehouses in Harlow, get them treated with spider poison, and put #1 back in it's home.
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    Awesome
    good work
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    Hi Bill,

    Really like the shot of the Heisler with the string of passenger cars behind it. Very good perspective with interesting brick building and backdrop in the background. Keep them photos coming.

    Dr Tom:thumb:
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    with the cooler weather we have been having, earlier than usual this year, thanks bee to God; It is getting more comfortable in the attic railroad room. I may be able to shift some of my efforts from workbench jobs into railroad room efforts, which produce better photos.


    Bill
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    SML A SOU 722.jpg Last night while watching pre season football with my wife, I did a lot of clean up work on my work bench.


    In the unfinished business pile was my Southern passenger service interchange engine a Bachman 2-8-0. This locomotive drives me nuts! I bought it mailorder, thinking Southern 2-8-0.... Black frieght locomotive. I open the box, and it is painted (beautifully, I might add) in Southern Passenger Green and gold. This color is correct for this locomotive # but only in 1970's steam excursion colors.


    It looks nice enough though for me to call it a passenger locomotive. now that my Southern Railway passenger cars roll and track well, the Southern Passenger train will go live in Southern staging, and occasionally come into Harlow, and up to the Terminal



    This locomotive was in the shops as the drive belt pulley on the motor shaft was loose. I disassembled it and glued the pulley in place , but in the process I broke a wire @ one of the plugs. I had to make a very delicate wiring repair, but I got that done. it has a tiny bind, I think from the flywheel making occasional contact with one of the boiler weight halves. it is very minor, and the last time I disassembled it I messed up that wire, so I'll leave it be for now. occasionally it will stall going forward from a stop, If I back it up some it will get past the bind and do fine.

    but for the time being I have two working Southern Railway interchange locomotives.


    Tests today showed that the Southern 2-8-0 and my southern passenger cars do not like the vertical curve going into the helix down to southern staging. The locomotive drops its front truck, and the cars derail in some fashion I can't see (under a overpass, next to the hole through the backdrop. Unless some guard rails can fix both problems, Southern passenger trains backing up to the Harlow Terminal isn't going to happen.

    On the bright side the tiny bind doesn't show up with my layout power, which has more amps than the powerpack on my workbench.


    Bill Nelson
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    SML A1 #1.jpg SML A1 #22 & # 21 w rfs.jpg My 2-4-4-2s stood out on my RR as they were almost the only locomotives on my railroad without a red roof (excepting a Southern Railway 0-8-0 that really doesn't count.


    This morning they made their way down to the paint shops, along with other locomotives ( a horizontal boiler class A Climax and an HOn3 0-4-4 Forney. they have red roofs now.


    Last night I did some work in Southside preparing the engine house there by cleaning the track vacuuming out the cobwebs, and treating the inside with spider poison, so when #1 goes there to live I can safely park it inside without getting cobwebs on the antlers.

    playing unsuccessfully with the Southern Railway passenger train last night I discovered a section of dead track in Southside. apparently a feeder wire was come off since I ballasted the aerea. once upon a time I could have hunted it down and fixed it, but now it is hidden in the ballast, and I will have to add another to get power back to that stretch of track.


    Bill Nelson
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    SML A1  #4 w RR.jpg also getting a red roof was #4, a Westside models horizontal boiler Class A Climax. #4 has had a hard life. these came with open frame motors with plastic front bearing blocks, which included the brush holders. that would only work for light duty,as if the locomotive got worked hard the brushes would get hot, and melt the plastic bearing block. Poor #4 was used for a road engine on a layout that is larger than my current one. I burnt out three original motors (Westside sent me the replacements for free) before I dropped a Sagami in there.


    After painting the roof I tested it , and it had some electrical conductivity problems that I cleaned up. I really need to add some electrical pick up so it picks up on every wheel, which is a big deal on such a tiny locomotive.


    Currently this locomotive works for the Strong and Perry Lumber company in the Gizzard, moving logs and lumber from the gizzard to Terrapin. That way Mountain division trains don't have to do any switching in the Gizzard, a blessing, let me assure you, that they are extremely grateful for. Unfortunately some unfortunate soul ends up behind the throttle of #4 doing the dirty work in the Gizzard.

    #4 despite looking somewhat disreputable looking, is stout, and can out pull a Bachman 3 truck shay on the mountain division. I have had to redesign this critter's drive train, as it is so stout it has been known to break it's drive shafts before it gets to full slip. It has NWSL slotted cups on it's drive shafts, now, and homemade brass cardigan shafts, and it hasn't broken a driveline component it years.

    I am tempted to letter it for the Strong and Perry Lumber Co. , and get it off the DG CC & W RR's roster. but since it isn't lettered for anything, I can leave it like it is, and it will be plenty ambiguous enough.

    Also if I ever want to build a tiny switching layout like my infamous Bumpass modules of yore, this is a locomotive that can handle too tight curves, and too steep grades.

    Bill Nelson
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