Eastern Tn logging on the DG CC & W RR 1928

Discussion in 'Logging, Mining and Industrial Railroads' started by Bill Nelson, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. Bill Nelson

    Bill Nelson Well-Known Member

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    More locomotive shops

    I have done some work on the AHM 2-4-0's driveshaft which was stripped out on one end, it is ready ro go to the paint shops. The AHM 4-4-0 now has a KD coupler on the tender. all it needs is a freight pilot, and it will be ready to go to the paint shops.

    I have done some searching, Bachman now carries the parts I need for the front truck of my Bachman Climax. those parts are ordered, and I can look forward to putting that locomotive in light service somewhere. (the locomotive's mechanism is stouter than the gears in the trucks, so this time i won't overload it.

    I have also ordered traction tires for the two Mantua General based 4-4-0s.


    I finally figured out how my Bachman Southern Green 2-8-0, which serves as the interchange passenger locomotive comes apart. I had suspected a broken drive belt, but the drive belt pulley was loose on the motor shaft. I glued it on, and finally , after many mishaps, got the locomotive back together. I have to make a wiring repair,and then it should be back into order.


    Bill Nelson
  2. gbwdude

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    Once again I have to thank you Bill for the motors, I really hope to put them to work on the WRRy. Like we discovered they should fit in the cab of the Athearn 0-4-2T with relative ease and give me some more room for a decoder install. Looks like a good project for this weekend, although I should be working on my first module's scenery (which I dislike doing the most) or laying some track on the second module.

    On the other hand I do have some pictures you may find interesting... maybe even inspiring. Enjoy!

    Tyler
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  3. Doctor G

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    Hi Tyler,

    That is one cool shay!!! Did you build it??? It looks like it is in a garden RR???

    Thanks for posting the the nice piccies.
    Dr Tom:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
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    interesting yes, inspiring. . . . . . ..

    I have to say that the pictured locomotive is interesting, because of the excellent texture of the rust and weathered wood.


    Inspiring? . . . . . . Only in a strangely demented kind of way. My guess is someone kitbashed a 2 truck , two cylinder shay out of a three truck three cylinder shay and could not stand to waste any parts. I'm hoping that not much time or treasure was spent on this none of a kind locomotive .


    For the record, let me sate that I only build ridiculous projects on alternate months, and given the right stack of parts, no telling what I would do.


    Instead I have been working diligently to remotor 4-4-0's and a 2-4-0 that are minimally usefull down in the Valley division, and totally worthless on the Mountain division,


    Bill Nelson
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    Tyler, If you dislike doing scenery, it is because you haven't been through The Dr Tom and Mr. Bill school.

    The U.S. Marine Corps is on record saying "Killing tanks is easy and fun." I don't know about that , but scenery is easy and fun. we just have to show you the tricks.

    Tom claims you can't make a mistake doing scenery. I know this to be untrue, and would accuse the good doctor of the big lie, except his good character has been proven to me over the years over and over; so I must say he is sadly mistaken I have made mistakes with scenery; I know what I'm talking about.


    Feel free to work on the locomotive or track, Tom and I will be happy to help you with your scenery later. I recommend you leave it to later, as there is a lot of stuff we can teach you on your modules or at the club, and scenery will make an OK layout into an extra ordinary one.


    Bill Nelson
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    Scenery is Mistake PROOF

    Hi Tyler,

    Scenery really can be a lot of fun and is very easy to do over or COVER OVER hence making it MISTAKE PROOF. Particularly all the water soluble ways of doing it now a days. If you don't like it turn on the hose and wash it away.

    Like Bill said we would be glad to help you with your scenerizing your layout....glad to help.

    Dr Scenery is Mistake Proof Tomsign1sign1sign1sign1
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    That's exactly what the guy did. And unfortunately Dr. Tom I did not build that, although it'd make one hell of a conversation piece... like my idea for the 4-4-4-0 "Super American". That project is down the road, for now I'll have to get edu-ma-cated in scenery:mrgreen:.

    So many things to do, not enough time. Sixteen more years til retirement...

    Tyler
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    Hi Tyler,

    A super patriotic steam ( super American) engine would be really cool. maybe in Red White and Blue colors???

    Bill and I will be glad to help you with scenery.

    Here are a few shots of HO scenery using water soluble techniques and cheap materials........it can be done.
    Doc Tom

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    SML A mskd wd ld.jpg SML A pntd tndrs.jpg starting up the paint shops

    I have a brand new can of Krylon indoor outdoor satin black, that has a nice nozel. Satin black is a good compromise. I used to do flat black, but since I am backdated to the late 1020's my equipment is a little more polished.


    masking around that wood load was a pain, but that is a nice wood load and I'd hate to loose it. The weathering the tender wasn't bad, just way heavier than my current practice.

    The tender with the wood load is off an AHM a J W Bowker, my #3 (probably my third #3-- all of the J W Bowkers) The other tender is off of an AHM Genoa, new to my service, a yard sale pick up, which will become my #2 replacing a long gone AHM Genoa.


    Bill Nelson
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    Maybe in about 36 years when it'll be 1976 in WRRy time... but first it's gotta be built.

    The Super American I'm building has a boiler from a Tyco 0-8-0, two Rivarossi 0-4-0 underframes (with valve gear), a front truck that came as a spare part with my brass Milwaukee Road S3 #261 and a Bachmann long USRA tender. I already replaced the boiler front with a Cal-Scale one since the previous owner must have had problems with it and glued it on... crooked. All the molded on details have been taken off and will be replaced with brass ones. I may replace the tender with something different since my creation will be similar in size to a 2-4-4-2.

    My main issue is building a drivetrain that'll power both front and rear sets of drivers. I'm contemplating scratchbuilding new frames for both sets so I have more flexibility and so I'll be able to use NWSL gearboxes with minimal issues.

    Even if I can't get it to run I'd still be proud to set it by the shop ;)

    Tyler
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    The Super American

    I got ambitious this afternoon and dug out all the parts for my Super American. I decided to mock it up for everyone to see what I've been babbling about. A lot of work still needs to be done but at least it's a start... and hopefully in the right direction. Today was the first time since who knows when (last time I touched it was in Korea) that it's seen light.

    I had to reassemble the tender because I had a idea to switch out the tender trucks, but one thing led to another and I ended up ripping it apart and not putting it back together. I thought I had all the molded on details scraped off but I guess I didn't. And I stuck the spare cab on the boiler that you get when you buy a undecorated Bachmann 4-6-0 to see how it looked compared to the USRA style cab, and I think this cab is a winner!

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    Tyler,

    What a beast. I can't help but mention that I see that, and I think 2-4-4-2 (but then again I'm usually thinking 2-4-4-2--and my railroads biggest flaw is the 2-4-4-2's don't have enough room to play.). The main point of most trailing trucks was not improved tracking, but to support a larger firebox, but if having a 4-4-4-0 turns your switch, I'm cool with that

    I have been in the paint shops, and have basic Krylon black satin on the 2-4-0 (Bowker-my #3) and the 4-4-0 (Genoa) Besides the new motor, the Bowker is pretty much stock, excepting cosmetic items, a throttle and a Johnson bar in the cab, and the wood rack on the tender. The Genoa has had the motor replaced with one out of a GM power outside rear view mirror. The motor is the exact size and shape of the stock motor, but starts at a lower voltage, and runs slower. The Genoa will become my #2 and get a new name, if it will have a name. I have not done anything cosmetically to it yet I did pack some lead into it's frame trying to make it pull better. Before I am done I will probably try to add electrical pick up to the insulated side of both locomotives

    Since my #1 and #4 have tan cabs; #2 and #3 will probably get tan cabs with red roofs before assembly. In the past I have used white dry transfer lettering. I am about ready to experiment with home printed decals. since I can't do white, I will probably go with yellow. my # 21 has gold decal lettering, so yellow is about as close to anything I have used in years. I haven't done decals in a coons age, so I will practice on some cars before I get to locomotives.

    I got a package from Bachman with the gears for my climax. My climax is not on the workbench where I thought it was or in any of the boxes or trays that hold locomotives in progress. I'll be lucky if I have not lost the parts by the time I find the locomotive. if I'm lucky I popped it back together and set it on a track by any one of my three turntables. time to go look.


    Bill Nelson
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    Tom says those are cheap materials, but he had to buy a couple acres to get some of those materials. you can raid my woods for natural materials though, and save your self that expense.


    Bill
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    found it

    I was puzzled by not finding my climax, especially since my work bench was mostly clear, then I remembered that my work bench was mostly clear due to space that opened up due to garage cleaning. I had made a bunch of project trays, laded them up with similar projects off the work bench, and moved them to the garage. there was a locomotive tray down there with the mantua 2-6-6-2, and some lesser projects, and a Climax! time for my nap before work, perhaps tomorrow I can fix the climax!


    Bill Nelson
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    Hi Tyler,

    A neat project. Really reminds me of the 2-4-4-2 of Little River RR fame.

    Keep up the good work!!!!


    Dr Tom:thumb:
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    The inspiration for this project was a combination of the 2-4-4-2, Pennsy's 4-4-4-4's, a German built 0-4-4-0 and your typical 4-4-0. After doing some research I found out there was no such prototype, which is what I wanted was something totally unique to the WRRy. The potentially difficult part is going to make it look like it could have been something that was real back in the day. And especially with my timeframe that I have going on it seems like a pointless build, but there's always wrinkles:cool:.

    Tyler
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    The way your time frame advances every year, well I couldn't do that. Or rather if I had done that, starting in 1968, modeling in 1948, it would be 1990 in Gorre County Tn. the logging would be gone, the iron furnaces would be gone ( it is a miracle they are still there in 1928- I have moved my time period backwards rather than forwards).

    My railroad's survival into 1990 is improbable. I don't want to model a tourist line with a rich history. although had my RR been abandoned allready, why think of the maintenance it could save me.


    Bill
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    NOtrak!

    That reminds me of this one April MR article where they had a module for NOtrak, which basically looked like a rails-to-trails module. Talk about maintenance free...:p

    Tyler
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    Today I went with the family to Hobby Lobby to find out that they're closing out their model railroad section. I didn't pick up anything since I didn't see anything worth grabbing on clearance. Although I was tempted to pick up a G scale Thomas set for my daughter... to use at Dr. Tom's place ;). I did, however, pick up some sheet brass so I can start building a frame, drawbar and a firebox for the Super American. With the advent of finding my soldering iron it's time to get some work done. Now that leaves me with another perdicament; to wash the cars or work on trains...

    Also Dr. Tom, other than the Climaxi, do you have any other goodies you're willing to part with?

    Tyler
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    Hi Tyler,

    Kinda sad we will have no where to get basic model rr supplies here in Clarksville.......things like ground foam, brass pieces, styrene etc.. Bill and I can remember when we had a real Hobby Shop in town and in Hopkinsville up the road.

    Looks like it will be mostly Internet shopping.

    Take the car to that $3 car wash on Wilma Rudolph ( a suprisingly good job) and work on choo choos. That's my vote.

    I have two sound equipped MDC factory built locomotives an 4-4-0 and a 2-6-0. These also have decoders in them from the factory. For now I will hang on to these as they have run on the club RR pretty well and could be used when we resume operating sessions.

    I can bring the Climaxi to choo choo club tomorrow. Lets hope they run well after a year in their foam boxes :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: .

    Doc Tom