Eastern Tn logging on the DG CC & W RR 1928

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    Bill Nelson Well-Known Member

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    SML prt o M's Pl 1.jpg more progress with the Ma's place fragments

    the store front flat is up in Ridgemont/ Stateline. I think I'm going to narrow it a lottle more so it lines up with the other buildings. The cabin structure is going to go into Perry's Gizzard, where it will be one of the larger domiciles (the hotel/boarding hose is considerably larger). there is no level ground in the Gizzard so the cabin has grown some stilts.


    The building has been shot with flat black spray paint, and then dark grey, and is ready for some craft paint. it is photographed here on a paper plate set on a phone book, to give the plate enough incline for the cabin to sit almost level.

    The kit had three porch posts with a little bit of railing on them. I have to hunt through my stuff, and see If I can find a fourth, or some railing that is close. You don't want your kid falling off the high corner of the porch, as it is right over the tracks. I'm thinking this will be a case of Dr. Tom style clearance (i.e. slim to none).

    more when it is painted (it gets painted before it gets porch posts and the porch roof.)


    Bill Nelson
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    SML prch rlng.jpg porch railings

    I didn't have any extras that were exactly the same. but the timber I'm framing up the engine house is about tight fro the porch post, and a grant Line porch railing is similarly sized, just a little finer. So I cot these gluing up , they might get painted when I take my next break from tearing out my bathroom wall.

    Bill Nelson
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    SML cbn n pl.jpg ms's pl cbn #2.jpg I got it in place, and there is enough clearance I ran #8 past it with a log train, and there was enough room. Getting my fingers on that ground throw is tricky though

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    A very neat little villa :thumb:
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    You won't be able to sleep late when the trains start running, hope you like the smell of coal smoke!

    it needs some work on the roof, but it fits; and getting buildings to fit in the Gizzard is tricky.
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    SML Hrlw Ol Co #1.jpg Harlow Oil Co.

    For many years, on the sadly neglected back side of Harlow I had a structure sitting there the 1/3rd of the way complete representing the Harlow Oil Co. the local distributor for Parrot Oil.

    It began life as a Grant Line corrugated warehouse. The kit was put togeter pretty much as designed, except it was cut down at an angle to fit a triangular area between the raised track that services Runyon Hardware and Lumber, the Coal distributor, and if I ever build it, the Tannery.

    Until last night it was just a shell, without windows or doors, and with just a shot of flat black and auto body primer to keep it feom looking plastic. I painted the building a dark Green, consistent with the Parrot Oil theme, and painted the doors and trim in Yellow.

    I'm up very early this AM, but the torrential downpour is preventing me from removing any more clapboard off my bathroom wall. Serious errors were made when my house was kitbashed into a house with a bathroom, so I am returning it to the house with a back porch, and starting completely over with the bathroom, hoping to build a wall that will actually keep the wind and the rain out. Having a little weather related construction break, I painted the Parrot Oil logo on the side of the building. This is about the perfect size for the logo. any smaller the details get hard to put on, any larger, and I have to struggle against the temptation to add more detail; but painting the logo on a corrugated surface was a challenge.

    Still to go I need to build and paint a sign for up on the roof, and do logos and possible lettering on the two horizontal Oil storage tanks which, along with the one in Crooked Creek, were robbed from a Wather's kit. I still need to build a Distributor for up in Ridgemont, with the complication of having facilities to transfer oil to a narrow gauge tank car as well.

    Meanwhile back in Harlow, once the Harlow Oil Co. is spruced up, I need to go to work on the Runyon Lumber & Hardware building , the coal distributor and the Mars Hotel, to get the back side of Harlow spruced up.

    I'm still studying the river trying to plan a dock for the steamboat, and cursing myself for not planning a siding more convenient to It. I guess they will have to use the Waterworks's siding, which used to go to a biscuit Co, that was sacrificed to add the edge of a mountain, which brings Harlow into the mountains, and helps make it look like a smaller town.

    In the photo, the wood just above the building in the photo is the stringer for the bridge that I am building for the club layout that is going to go over the log pond and lead to the Cumberland #1 mine ( Got to get down to the Cumberland Mine!- yet another Grateful Dead reference).
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    I know I'm going to regret asking such a basic question, but with all of the Parrot Oil signs and logos, would not a stencil have been easier since you are working in a large scale?
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    have no regrets.

    The parrot oil logos have mostly been different sizes except for the ones on the oil tank cars, and the two on the oil tanks for parrot oil. the ones on the sides of the HO trucks are tiny.

    it is a fairly complex design, but I have the process down cold. making a stencil would be a ***** ***** . If i didn't enjoy painting I'd paint a really big one, on a canvas or masonite illustration board; photograph it, play with photoshop to make the white parts transparent, and print different sizes on white decal paper.

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    SML Harlow Oil Co..jpg Harlow Oil Co.

    Harlow Oil Co. is the Parrot Oil distributor for the Harlow area. it has been in progress for many years. Now I just need to build the dock for filling up the tank trucks, and add the pipping, which should take some studying. one thing I can do without studying is to paint up a bunch of oil drums in Parrot oil colors with tiny logos on them for the loading dock.

    The parrot oil truck was painted at least fifteen years ago. the logo is about the same , but the paint is not as dark as what I'm using now.

    This scene should look really good when I get some ballast/ ground cover down, and add fences and pipes. the track is on an incline, the tank car is only staying in place because it has magnetic axles, so I'll have to make a hill holder, or use the push pin break (that is what the pin in the photo is for) to keep the car from rolling away, once I find non magnetic axles for it.

    once you get hooked on magnetic uncoupling you can't go back.

    Bill Nelson
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    Hey Bill,

    Parrot Oil is really taking off. It has been fun to see the expansion of the facilities.

    Doc Tom:thumb:
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    No Expansion

    So far there has been no expansion. the building and tanks have been there for five or six years. all I have done is to paint the building, and windows and signage.

    I'm going to go to work on Runyon Hardware and Lumber, and the Mars Hotel next; aiming to get the back side of Harlow looking better.

    Bill Nelson
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    when I did the redesign to make Harlow a smaller city, I have a lot fewer delivery locations on that obnoxious raised track, so doning scenery over there should be faster, at least until I get to the Tannery, which will be both big and complicated, since a lot of it will be on pilings, on the hill above the turntable.
    Bill Nelson
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    Well, lets say the "upgrades" look very nice.
    Tom:twisted:
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    Mrs H nghbrhd..jpg SML bcksde O H 8:09.jpg SML Mars H fnds #1.jpg SML mrs H fnds #2.jpg work in the neighborhood

    getting ready to d some ground work @ Parrot oil, I but in some foundations for The mars Hotel, and Runyon Lumber and Hardware across the street. The Mars Hotel is a relic from my High school days, which has been re painted, and had the side and part of the back removed to along with the Runyon Lumber and hardware across the street, taper the road there to help set up the perspective for the backdrop.


    I did some sky colored painting on the back drop to cover up places that were blacked out for building locations, and then the plans were changed to make this scene the edge of town instead of the middle of a bigger town. the blacked out areas really helps these partial buildings, that make up most of Harlow look more solid. on the other side of Harlow oil, the elevated track curves and crosses the yard tracks to a hill behind the engine facilities where I intend to build a tannery. The Imperial Desk and Chair Co.'s siding is off the Southern Rwy, so the tannery, Harlow Oil. Runyon lumber and Hardware, the Harlow waterworks, and the riverboat docks will be the only freight delivery locations in Harlow. No one will miss the ones that have been deleted, as it was a **** to switch that raised track when it was wall to wall freight docks.


    I'm going to have to study the way Zelot arranges photos, as whenever I try to show a progression it comes out random at best, and usually bass ackwards.

    BILL nelson
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    I've really enjoyed reading your posts and looking at the wonderful pics you post. Keep up the good work. :thumb:

    :cool:
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    Thanks for the support, seeing the work of others on this forum helps keepthe interest going, and sharing via photographs helps us work a little harder, making that extra effort to make it look a little better.

    Bill Nelson
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    All that track looks very nice and the scene looks like it's shaping up nicely :thumb:
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    The code 55 rail rooks really good. on most of my RR I used code 70 on the main and code 55 on sidings, which really helps differentiate between parallel tracks. also I built point switches on the main in most of the Valley division , and stub switches elsewhere.

    Harlow was the big exception there. I was wanting to get the maximum distiction between the Southern Railways mainline, in front of the Imperial Desk and Chair Co., and over the river. To do that I used code 83 rail for the Southern, and built the DG, CC, & W RR's track in Harlow exclusively with code 55 and stub switches.

    It looks good, but it was a big mistake. Due to room size limitations, there are 18 inch radius curves down there. That with the small rail , and the longer trains needed in the Valley division are a bad combination, so Harlow is tricky to switch, which is a main reason I have tried to simplify operations there.

    Were I to start over, doing the same thing, I'd use code 100 for the Southern, code 83 for my main, and code 70 for the siddings. all that rail would be oversized, but you would still see the differences, and the trains would run much better, as as the rail gets smaller the footprint of the electrical path from the rails to the locomotives wheels decreases drastically.

    Bill Nelson
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    SML bs H bd#1.jpg beggining the backdrop

    I thought I had posted this, but I don't see it. so here we go again.


    I played with acrylic paints to start backdrop work. I got the far ridgeline all the way from the Imperial Desk and chair building to over behind the site of the tannery. I filled in some of the foreground up to the site of the Mars Hotel. this will take a lot of work, it needs individual trees up front, and the use of several colors of green toward the bottom, as well as bits of building showing through here and there, as well as details on the buildings on the visible street; but this is a start!
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    SML RD @ BKS o Hlw.jpg the road

    I got the road back at the Mars Hotel in and painted. there is a sidewalk @ Runyon Lumber and Hardware, but it is painted the same color as the road, I'll have to go back and repaint it a lighter color, and get the sidewalks on the back drop the same color. then it will be time to do ballast and ground cover; and then get some vines on the retaining wall, which is made up of homemade castings, ad has jints between the castings that need hiding desperately.


    I forgot to put the lumber shed in place for the photo. Next is to make some grade crossings, and a road that crosses the main, and goes to the aisle down in ftont near the river.

    The Runyon lumber and Hardware building is down on the workbench to get a foam core roof and some paint work. Very little will get done this weekend though, will be very busy.
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