Designing the Su-7, Su-9, Su-17, Su-22 and MiG-21

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  1. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

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    Three versions of this one are now available (besides the uncolored), this is the third version, in green:

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    They can be found in the "Contemporary Aircraft" section.
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    I began work on the Me P.1112 today. It should be a pretty enjoyable model to build, since the majority of aircraft is integrated into the larger structures. For example, the cockpit is flush with the fuselage, and does not protrude, meaning the cockpit will simply be a texture on the nose, not additional parts. The only slightly odd parts will be the intakes, which are still just indents in the fuselage. I could make them simply in the texture if I wanted to, but I'm going to make them seperate parts instead.

    Intakes aside, now that I've finished the 3-view drawings, the design process should go relatively quickly.
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    Here's the prototype of the Me P.1112 model! I had to print out a bunch of different versions because I kept messing up the nose section, but its finally all in order. I also had to make the rudders longer, they're too short on this version, but I doubt I need to test them. I'll probably have the colored version up later today.

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    I also figured I'd take a little time to show off the J-10s, in all three colors. You've all seen the green one already, so I'll start with the "standard" light blue (more like periwinkle really):

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    Then there's the light blue/green camo version. I probably need to redo this with darker colors, you can't tell the difference between it and the plain blue one from the pictures. The bottom is grey, unlike the blue one:
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    I also figured I'd compare mine to Lex's superb larger scale model of the J-10. That is a beta build I did to help him out, and I'm a little disappointed with it, not because of any flaw in the design, but because I didn't use thick enough paper during construction, and the result was...well, you can see:

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    Here's a small treat as well; this is a kitbash of Ojimak's Japanese F-16. It looks pretty good, but I wasn't very satisfied with it myself:

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    Here's a comparison of the three version of my J-10:

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    As I was taking these, I realized that I'm probably the only person in America with six models of the J-10. The white one is the prototype:

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    The prototyp of the Messerschmitt-project is looking very good and it`s a very welcome design.
    Also the J-10 looks perfect, and with this pics you get my mouth watering, what I didn`t expect before
    btw: the Chinese I think, have more than you:mrgreen:

    Respect, you`re not only a perfect designer:thumb:
  5. Paragon

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    The Me P.1112 is now available on my website. Expect images later.

    I'm interested in making the X-31 and the Junkers "Warthog" (Unnamed attack aircraft), as well as the Junkers EF 128, but I'm not sure if I want to make those just yet. So now its time to ask for suggestions again! What models would you all like to see?
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    outstanding - man you do quick (and excellent) work
    david
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    if you would post the cross-sections for the P 1112 at the various joints, i could convert this beauty into a great little depron EDF or pusher parkflyer/
    david
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    another suggestion for a Luft 46 model. the Me P1110 "Ente".
    basically the same fuse as the P1112 with repositioned wing and canard instead of v-tail. should be a quick redo from your P1112 work.
    david
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    Cross sections for the P.1112 joints? I'm afraid you'll have to give me a little example of what you're talking about here. I'm also afraid that doing this will be somewhat difficult, my design process is quite unorthadox, and does not produce cross sections (like using a 3D modelling program would). Give me some examples, and some time, and I'm sure I could come up with something. Though for what it's worth, the cross-section for the fuselage should pretty much be circles of varying diameter throughout the model.
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    circles is close enough. when i built mine, i used ellipitical sections - should have made them circular. think i'll give a new one a try. those developed body sections of your model will be great patterns for the depron skin.
    david
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    Did you already build mine, or do you mean another model?
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    i'm building your model right now (just came up from basement shop. nice inlets, by the way), although i've alrready made a lost foam EDF a few years back. i'll use your skin patterns to work up a foamy version.
    david
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    Ok, well I'm glad it will help. I hope its of high enough resolution that it scales up well.

    Also, I doubt those intakes would have actually worked, it doesn't look like the air would actually get into them.
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    How about a T37 Paragon? Or a Spartan C27, or a Beriev200?


    Any other votes guys...
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    Holy crap, a cargo plane that can do barrel rolls and loops!? The Beriev also look very interesting, I wouldn't mind doing either of them. Anyone else have a preference?
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    Thank you for that J-10 Paragon!!!!!! It rocks! --Would you mind if I put those files up for download on Chinese forums? Or you prefer having a link to your site only?
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    A Spartan C27 Please!!!! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
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    Either really, its up to you. I like knowing how many times a file gets downloaded, it helps me figure out what subjects are most popular, and design models that more people will enjoy, so linking them to the site would be slightly preferable. I do have Google translator on the homepage, which includes Chinese. You could also link them to each of the models on the savefile site, if you want to point them directly to that particular content.

    Ok, that makes two for the Spartan, so right now it looks pretty likely to be next. Any more input?
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    Thanks Paragon, no I was just wondering if your site is accessible from China (great firewall creeps into mind)... Also I'm interested about that "detailed model" of the J-10 on your site, do you have a link for it? (the current one isn't right...)
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