[Choke] [cough] [splutter].... Wooo.. That's one NICE stand design Fox ! Way better than the idea's I was playing with. I'm pretty sure the devastator would happily sit on the Pandora's stand as well ~ I can trash that lazy idea now. Excellent work!!. TomW ~ Nope not yet, I'm just standing by for some test builders feedback, so its not to far off. B-Manic ~ Yup.. After all this time, I just recently saw the Blohm and Voss Design on a Flightsim forum. Its clear where the CS guys got the Warhawk design from.. ( and I thought they'd come up with a kewl looking unique design...Duuurrhh) * Just goes to show how much I miss here, I just noticed the date of that design thread (05) ~ hadn't seen it before. Did that model ever see the light of day?