cheap trees please!!!

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  1. Dansco

    Dansco Member

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    All,
    Im using the bottle brush method (hemp rope, wire, tape, drill) I would like to have THICKER trunks on the bottom, has anyone tweaked this method to build larger, tapered trunks? There shoudl be some way to get some bulk in the trunk..

    Thanks
  2. MasonJar

    MasonJar It's not rocket surgery

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    Just off the top of my head, I'd say add more layers of tape nearer the bottom of the stem...?

    Andrew
  3. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    thanks for all the help guys,this has been alot of help....all i need is a layout to put the masterpeices on,but the area its going to be in is currently occupied by stuff. sooner or later it will evolve.but i wanted to share this great tutorial on making very detailed decidious trees and i was thinking about modyfing this and making some extremely detailed conifers.its time consuming but the results are great.--josh

    Armorama :: Making Trees with Wire by Jan
  4. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    hey dansco,you COULD cover the trunk with plaster just on the bottom for a thicker trunk and more bark/detail effects.and you could mix sand with the plaster to give the "bark" more texture still.just spitballin here.--josh
  5. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    does anyone know a good place to buy detailed trees if ...im...not up to the task :mrgreen: ,im stumped.--josh
  6. Dansco

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    I like the ideas for getting thicker trunks, I live in the coast range of oregon, and I see some BIG trees prety regulary. Specificaly I like the look of the big cedars, they have tapered trunks that flare out at the bottom rather drammaticaly, but they are genearly not too tall.

    thanks
  7. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    to have the right trunks you either not be able to do a bottle brush method,or just have to hide the inner trunk and just see the bottom portion.thats all i can really think of :D --josh
  8. MasonJar

    MasonJar It's not rocket surgery

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    That Armorama tutorial is great!

    Thanks for the link... ;) :D :thumb:

    Andrew
  9. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    i thought you might like it,i was amazed at how good the trees looked after they were finished! im using it for my really detailed decidous trees.--josh
  10. HO Newbie

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    Yeh, Oops! Sorry about that
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    This link is really great! You can incorporate the two methods. Use the method of rasping a dowel from the link below, then drill a hole in the end of it and insert your wire ends. I tried it and it worked out well. Hope this helps!

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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    that was a great link HO newbie! i put that in my favorites.ill definatley use it when i start my layout.--josh
  13. Dansco

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    At 1:00 AM last night I made my best conifer tree yet.

    I used the bottle brush method with a few tweaks...
    · Layout a 10" piece of masking tape sticky side up
    · Cut a 20" piece of wire (I use heavy eclectic fencing wire) bent into an "L" shape
    · Cut a 9" piece of hemp rope
    · "Taper" the rope by unwinding strands and cutting them out as you go. The part where you will have branches should be pretty thin, maybe just a few "bundles" of fibers thick..
    · Feed the wire in and through the "Tapered" rope, It doesn’t have to be perfect, be sure to leave 1" or so of the wire sticking out the bottom of the tree, you’ll need something to clamp to, plus its great for poking into the foam...
    · Lay the wire/Rope thingy on the masking tape
    · Using various lengths of hemp rope (between 4" and 6") unwind and separate the strands, do not unwind to the individual fibers, just to the smallest "bundle" of fibers..
    · Lay the fiber "bundles" artistically, leaving a good amount of the lower trunk with out branches
    · Bend the remaining 10" of wire (the other leg of the "L") over the branches, rope and tape. Be sure to form a loop at the top of the tree, and have enough wire from both ends sticking out the bottom of the tree to allow a solid grip with your clamp.
    · Cut another 10" piece of masking tape, lay this sticky side down over the whole mess...
    · Gently press it all together
    · Clamp the ends of the wire to the edge of the table (or vice if your lucky)
    · Using a hook chucked into your cordless variable speed drill, slowly twist the tree till it looks like something cool. The winding job will naturally expand most of the rope fibers, so you may want to fluff or retwist as you see fit.
    · You should now have something that looks sorta like a tree with a thicker trunk at the bottom. Use liberal amounts of masking tape to increase the taper and really flare the bottom. When I did this, I ended up with a large "bulb" at the bottom of my tree, I used a razor blade to make a clean cut through the tape and rope, at the thickest point of the bulge and removed the bottom of the bulge.
    · Add secondary branches by spraying with paint or something sticky and sprinkling bits of grass/moss on to the fiber branches.
    · Paint the whole thing with brown paint, then while the paint is still sticky sprinkle fine ground foam over the branches. I also do the trunk, to get some texture from the foam, but then re-spray the trunk with brown again...
    Ill post a pic tonight.

    Thanks
  14. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    thats sounds cool dansco,if its as greta as you say it is ill definatley try it! :thumb:--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    that was yet another good tutorial on bottlebrush trees bones,thanks for helpin.great site too--joh