If any of you here at cardmodels.net haven't checked out kartonbau.de recently, please do so. In their portal, look under "most current threads" for "kartonbau-marathon" thread. It was fun to take part in and I suggested that it expand its awareness next time to include anyone interested. Perhaps this forum (and others) could have their own at different times of the year? P.S. the free Douglas M2 from navarin.narod.ru I'm working on is a good kit for an amateur like myself to sink into and get about 30% completed in 24 hours.