Manufacturers of model railroad equipment these days, especially locomotives, keep pushing the envelope in terms of sophistication, and I for one find this to be repulsive. They keep on getting more and more expensive, more and more complete, you have to do less and less to them to make them look good, the handrails and grab irons and lift rings are thinner and more detailed. Basically, they look so amazing and cost so much that you're afraid to weather them, they're so delicate that simply handling them is a baffling ordeal, and they've got so many detail parts, and require such little modification, that they just aren't FUN to own. Not only that, but to top it all, they've started putting in that corny "sound on board" crap, I HATE locos with sound, but I HATE it even more when the only option available is to buy the loco WITH the sound, and pay the extortionate price for something that you're only going to rip out later when it bugs the heck out of you. I don't WANT sound, I don't WANT my locos to be super detailed already, I don't WANT to have to pay so much money for something that is no fun to own. Why aren't there manufacturers who concentrate on making the drive work really smoothly, and getting the bodyshell to the exact dimensions, with all the right detail in the right place, crisply moulded? And before you say "Stewart Hobbies", let me say "user friendly please"! Forget all the detail parts (although, handrails are a must, I think), I want the basic core of a locomotive so that I can modify it to my own road's specifications with aftermarket detail parts, so that I end up with something that I can actually call my OWN, something that's MINE, my effort gone into it, my enjoyment, not the enjoyment (or lack thereof) of some grossly underpaid chinese slave labourer, fettering away the better years of his or her life installing a million and one grab irons and lift rings! I love Athearn's kit range for these very reasons, and I only deviate from sprucing up their locos when I want something that's either not in their range, or is in their range but the shell is so inaccurate that it's not worth buying. Like the F7 for instance. Could somebody PLEASE make an F7 and not have it with the detail level of a brass locomotive and a price tag to match? If I wanted that I'd buy a brass model! The solution? The "Buy the bodyshell as a spare part" society! Avoid the cost, riff raff, useless bits (like on board sound), and lack of fun of premium ready to run locos, while still getting the accuracy! We don't need your preprepared runs-like-perfect-out-the-box chassis, we'll use a remotored Athearn chassis. We'll buy our favourite details west, detail associates, and cannon parts, and have fun putting it all together. Haha! Your attempt to ruin our hobby isn't looking so successful now is it mr RTR manufacturer? So who wants to join?