0n30 Manufactures

Discussion in 'On30 Forum' started by weaham@localnet, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. weaham@localnet

    weaham@localnet New Member

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    Any input as to who makes 0n30 trains? I stopped by a hobbies shop in New York and they said that Bachmann was lake buying "boxed trash". I always thought they were a good line. Any input would be great as I am in the process of starting a layout.
    Harry
  2. Tileguy

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    Check out the Grandt Line Porters in On30.:)
  3. Tileguy

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    Also, the BLI 2-8-0 is a very nice Loco and comes with sound and DCC :)
  4. Lighthorseman

    Lighthorseman Active Member

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    The Bachmann On30 stuff is great. I also suffer from a stuck-in-the-past hobbystore owner who jeeringly refers to anything made by "botchmann" to be worthless crap. Bachmann single-handedly introduced the world of On30 to the masses, and god bless them for it.

    Ask anyone who has one - their On30 line of locos and rolling stock are gems.
  5. Greg Elems

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    The Bachmann of the On30 world is great stuff. I have two 2-6-0's and they run like my Atlas HO, smooth. The cars are rugged, dropped my caboose the other day and minor coupler damage was all I could see. They are bringing out some new freight cars that not run of the mill by any means. The EBT 2-bay hopper looks like it will be a jewel. Your hobby shop owner needs to open his eyes.

    Greg
  6. capt_turk

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    I agree that the Bachmann On30 stuff is good. The only piece that I'd steer anyone away from is the older 0-4-0 Porters. They used tiny pin and spring power pickups. The pins hang up and the loco dies. I bought two of them and niether one ran for more than an hour. The 0-4-2's use a different power pickup. It is a bronse spring affair that clamps into the motor housing. It works great. I have a couple of them and they have run with no problems at all.
    From what I've been told, the "new" version of the 0-4-0 has the same spring power pickups that the 0-4-2 has always had. Just check that the 0-4-0's you buy have the bronse spring pickups.
    I have the Climax and a couple the Shays. They look and run great. The 2-6-0 Mogul looks good and runs fair. It doesn't run real great at very slow speeds but other than that is a good loco. My Mogul took a dive from about 5' when I first got it, so that may be the reason it doesn't want to run great at slow speeds. Possible bent frame.
    The Climax, and the Shay will pull stumps. I have a 6.5% grade on my layout and they pull it with 5 or six cars with no problem.
    don't let anyone tell you that Bachmann is trash. They may have been in the past, but their Spectrum line is "very" good.
  7. TinGoat

    TinGoat Ignorant know it all

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    Hi Harry,

    I got my first HO train set from Bachmann when I was 8... Back in '74... It still runs beautifully. The whole set is very well made, and pretty much bomb-proof! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    During the 80's and early 90's, Bachmann did put out some junk that ruined their reputation for some hobby shops. I heard the same thing from my local hobby shop when I got back into trains a few years ago...

    The stuff that was sold seperately under the Bachmann Plus line and Silver Series, were okey, but the basic stuff that came in the sets was pretty bad...

    They turned everything around with the introduction of the Spectrum line and have been producing very good quality stuff since the late 90's...

    And the Bachmann On30 stuff is excellent!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    Maybe you can take advantage of the situation and get a deal. If the Hobby shop thinks that Bachmann is junk, then he should be willing to sell it at cost , or for a discount, just to get rid of it! :cool: :D

    I wouldn't hold my breath though....
  8. Greg Elems

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    Capt Turk, my two 2-6-0's have run very nice at slow speeds since I pulled them out of the box. Both of my boys run them and haven't complained about any problems. I haven't put them through their paces on the switching layout yet but for a circle of track and a couple of switches on the floor they are great. Some of the detail is fragile but the cars are rugged. I haven't bought a shay or Climax yet but they do look great sitting on my LHS shelf. I understand the little crittter diesel is a great runner too.

    Greg
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    capt_turk Member

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    As I said, my mogul runs fine at speed. It just doesn't do good at switching speeds. It's very high geared for one thing.
    I have one of the gas side rod switchers ordered. I'm looking forward to getting it on the layout.
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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    The introduction, by Bachmann, of the Spectrum 2-8-0, in HO, literally set the industry on its ear. Bachmann had raised the bar to a previously unheard of height! That product caused the other manufacturers to match the quality. LifeLike proto 2000 heritage series is one of the results, and, along with Bachmann spectrum, represent some of the finest steam models currently available.
    Even the On30 Mogul, from Bachmann rates praise. We had one of the passenger sets running in the front window, every minute the store was open. It logged over 800 statute miles, and can still go further!
    Pete
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    I have both the 0-4-0 Porter and the 2 truck shay in On30 and they work great for me. However, a few years ago [about 15] I would not have taken a Bachman if you gave it to me for free. They have changed radically in recent years.
    I hope that helps. :)
  12. Jim Krause

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    I have Bachmanns 0-4-0 Porter, 2 cylinder Shay, Climax and the 2-6-0. I haven't had any problems with them.
    As mentioned above, Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette magazine has ads from other On30 manufacturers. There are several small companies that make rolling stock specifically for backwoods On30 layouts.
    there is San Juan Car Company for cars and Accucraft if you are looking for small diesel and gas mechanical loco's
  13. MidnightRR

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    "Boxed trash"?

    These guys are nuts. Bachmann's On30 product is excellent. The locos run very well and are nicely detailed. The rolling stock is nicely detailed (for RTR) and reasonably priced.

    I'd be really hesitant to spend my money in a shop run by such ill-informed staff.
  14. Tileguy

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    The On30 shay is among the finest runners out there...It runs smooth & realistically slow..It will crawl an inch an hour or climb a 6% grade like a Mtn Goat.

    The Porters are fantastic Low Priced models..again they run like a Scale model, not a toy.

    The BLI 2-8-0 i had cost more and while a good runner was NOT by Any stretch of the imagination a Better runner than the bachmanns......It was AS GOOD but at Twice the price.

    The BACH MANN RULES On30..................Come Join "The Dark Side"
    You Will Be Assimilated!!! ;)
  15. Dave R.

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    Last night my Bachmann on30 Shay took a three foot header off my lay-out, on to a bare concrete floor, IT STILL RUNS!
    The spark screen got a little crumpled (looks kinda scale) and the handle from the bell broke off; it was still tied to the cab.
    If ever there's been a product endorsement, this is it! I am absolutely AMAZED by this Bachmann product and am now a Spectrum on30 Zealot. I'm going to buy the 4-4-0 to celebrate.
    Thanks,
    Dave
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    HI i will go to a hobby shop where their sell all train not just what they want to sell and Bachmann Spectrum on30 item are a super running i have about 6 of them now
  17. Bill Nelson

    Bill Nelson Well-Known Member

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    On30 bothers me, it just doesn't look right. I have purchased a Bachman On30 Climax with DCC and sound, to spread to ON3. It is an amazing locomotive, sounds good to.


    Bill Nelson
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    clevermod01 designer at clever models

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    New kits

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    This may be a hangover from years ago. ten fifteen years ago Bachman made a lot of Junk and most of it was almost unusable. The improvements in Bachman's quality in the last ten years is 2,000% . It was bad enough once to make you swear off the stuff forever.


    Bill Nelson
  20. ton noteboom

    ton noteboom ton noteboom

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    my compliments to Bachmann.
    Their Spectrum range is excellent.
    I had some trouble with the gearing of the railcar but they sent, after i complained, a complete new one for parts.
    Unfortunately Bachmann, in their new catalog, have no new models.
    It looks like they are scaling down.
    The porter with dcc and sound is reintroduced thats about it.
    Why they still sell the 0-6-0 mogul i don't know.
    I had one here, from a trainset i bought for the D&RGW passenger cars.
    But it looks like a toy in comparison with the other later models they made.
    It has relocated to my junkbox.
    Recently i bought a secondhand MMI K27 because i loved it for so long.
    Boy o boy , it looks great but the driving quallities are BEEP BEEP BEEP!!!!
    It's still in the maintenance shed for MAYOR refit.
    This will be the first and last expensive model i will buy.
    In future i will stick to cheap and chearfull Bachmann Spectrum.
    They look good and run flawlessly.

    Ton