VICTORIAN STYLE TRAMWAY HALT SHELTER

carlos filipe

carlos filipe
Thank you Gandolf50. Very thoughtful of you.
I have been looking for something this type to use in the background to force perspective. OO/1/76 behind the British O scale (1/439 might be too harsh transition, but I'll try to resize to something like 1/60. I still haven't done serious resizing using percentage, I just create pdfs changing the paper size. For instance from A4 to A3, wich doesn't give me the double in spite of the paper size being exactly the double, but the margins change the calculations.
 

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carlos filipe

carlos filipe
I feel like a diletant.
Have a lot of things in my mind, but take so much time to decide and start the real work. And life isn't easy, there's always something with higher priority...
I bought some 5 years ago a resin kit of a tramway locomotive reproducing the one on the photos. It is in O16.5 (meaning 1/43.5 running in 16.5 track). Got some figures from Phoenix, I'm finishing the third paper model building, but nothing is REALLY finisihed, just loos ends.
I don't have much space available as I live in a flat and have a lot of diversified theme of the hobby. So things just go slowly...
Some I might never actually build.
This layout with a provisory title Seaside should be a mini layout not exceeding 1.20m/4ft. including staging yard, by 1'1/2. My building apartment is only 3x3ft wide. Going downstairs 3 floors with a layout - even if light - isn't fun and always add some scratches to the work...
 

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carlos filipe

carlos filipe
My computer is needing maintenance, only now I could download the model of the terrace row house. A very good looking model considering it is an offer.
 

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Thank you Gandolf50. Very thoughtful of you.
I have been looking for something this type to use in the background to force perspective. OO/1/76 behind the British O scale (1/439 might be too harsh transition, but I'll try to resize to something like 1/60. I still haven't done serious resizing using percentage, I just create pdfs changing the paper size. For instance from A4 to A3, wich doesn't give me the double in spite of the paper size being exactly the double, but the margins change the calculations.

I am not even going to pretend to understand what you are talking about when it comes to train scales! I know zilch! I remember HO and Z scales and thats about it...did notice that the row house is for several scales...
4mm/ft scale for OO, EM, P4/S4, 009 gauges(Can be scaled to suit 3, 3.5 & 4.8mm/ft scales) with directions..and I am sure there are charts on Railway Sites or even here ( haven't looked) that have conversion tables for percentages...then there is the formula scale you want divided by the scale model is = percentage to print or something like that)...can look up if needed...BTW...I Love the brick model in the background Public Toilets reminds me of when I lived in Brandon, Suffolk...the rest are very nice also...that one just stands out for me! I also have projects, waiting, TOO many, all in a pile ...perhaps I'll get to them , have to finish the two I'm working on now ( and the 3 others I haven't mentioned)! I also have 4 complete build by scratch projects, as there are few examples and very little in the way of details! It has taken several years to find what I have been able, and that is very little!
 

carlos filipe

carlos filipe
Hi Gandolf50, sorry for the cyphered conversation. I just mean that since I'm planning to build a layout that is not much deep, I'm going to try to use different scales to give the illusion of depth. And this model you just suggested me seems great to play with that illusion.
Thee models I have been working - Victorian shelter, Edwardian Public Toilet and Terrace row house - are from Purple Bob's a British firm with nice items.
 

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Carlos, run the following program,

CCleaner available from here: https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

Get the free one, it updates all the time. You run it till it reads "0" files found. It will not take out aything you need, it will clean your Registry. Any program worth salt, will put back what it needs.ed it for 8 years! :)
 

Gandolf50

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I understand...Carlos, makes more sense to me now...I will look for Edwardian Public Toilet on Bobs..Might be able to use some things like this for dioramas....

I don't know if this would interest you, but if you are into some scratch building..I found this link some time ago..at least most are in the Victorian style..and all free!

http://www.victorianrailways.net/infastuct/infastructhome.html

Enjoy!
 

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Try these on for size. The second one must have splashed or made a serious thud if dry. 3rd, the original Port--potty. You didn't even need to get out of bed on the 3rd one, though I am sure your spouse would! The 4th image shows why people started wearing less clothes!! We had these full size over your head down to the floor style Urinals in the grammar School I went to. It was built in the 1800's. We (we are in 6th grade) would pee in three or four of them at a time, standing back around 6 feet, we used them all alright, but were to scared to get next to them. I never figured out how to flush them. The outside toilet, 1865-1875, Paris France, the last pic, judging by the extremely large wet spot, it looks like it drained locally. :)

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carlos filipe

carlos filipe
Great photos! The first object I thought it was some kind of early coffee machine. The image of the lady is very curious. In spite of so many pieces of clothing during the XVIIIth century, the "culottes" - ladies underwear - was split open for this purpose. An obvious solution for garments that would take 1 hour to put on and with assistance. The "wooden seat" is the simplest expression of the contraption. I had a chance to visit the Royal Palace in Sintra - Portugal - on a private tour, that included the royal chamber of the Queens. there was this technical solution, but looking like a throne, padded velvet cushion and a small door to access the night pot. The "pissoir" (not sure if that is the proper designation) was a common sight all over European cities until the 1st decade of the XXth century.
The wet on the public toilet, last photo is due to the same joke you and your buddies did in school. Just an accidental version....
 

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Just let it all hang out and poop out, was the catch phrase of the day!! Shoes were a serious thing back then, and you can see why. We call the boxes with the Lid and drawer, or back door, with the ceramic bowl inside, "Water Closets". The second one was a composting Water Closet, which are being used again, as the waste can go into your garden, not mine, yours!! The 3rd picture is where the word "Crap" came from, as Sir Thomas Crapper" had marketed the most successful toilet, and people started using his name for the movement. He literally turned his name to crap. Everyone was introduced to Crappers, and, though the patent ran out, the name of the movement lives on. I read somewhere he changed his name to Sir Thomas Pooper. :)

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carlos filipe

carlos filipe
Very good insight on the world of poop&crap.
I couldn't resist the humour, but in fact we tend to make jokes of this rather private aspect of our civilization that is of the utmost importance. Convenience and health.
And we forget these artefacts. Now I now the origins of an American/English word.
 

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My wife still doesn't believe me!! Yet, I find the expression "Bowel movement" a little too descriptive. :)
 

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Maybe it is because I associated "Movement" with music, and that end of me produces more of a percussion sound. :)
 

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Or rather the "wind" section, Zathros? ;)

Or that is dependant on what you ate... Bean there, done that.... :)
 
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