2001 ASO USSC Discovery One

paper hollywood

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Well, comparing yours to the movie stills and UHU's original, I see what you mean. I might be sort of an illusion, though. It will probably look different when it's off the table and you can see the three sections around the central rod. How's it look from the other side? At any rate, I sure wouldn't start over just because of that. At this point I'd say FTW and move forward.
 

DanBKing

Dan the Man
I think the same.

I'm not convinced people, but thanks for the imput.

If you look at the photos from the post when I attached the second set of modules, you can see it 'off the table' also, and from the starboard side.....

It just doesnt look right.......Maybe the photos don't show it as clearly as in 'real life'....

I am going to do some testing later tonight.
Will let you know the results......

If it DOES turn out to be a nut problem, I dont think it is going to be too much of a problem. As all the subassemblies are attached to the spine seperatly, so they shouldnt be too much of a problem to remove and refit correctly.....

But, it is looking like I may have to do the paper version of the nuts after all....wall1
 

paper hollywood

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Well, the issue is doubtless because of your nut replacement idea, but anytime you do a customization like that there can be subtle differences. Do what you must, but I don't think Stanley Kubrick's ghost would notice the difference without having it pointed out.
 

Rhaven Blaack

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Granted, there may be a slightly bigger gap where you pointed it out, but all in all you have been doing a FANTASTIC job on this build. I for one would not have noticed, if you had not pointed it out. Granted, I am very detail orientated, but I do not know enough about the ship to say that there really is a problem.

keep up the GREAT work.
 

DanBKing

Dan the Man
Too much weed......

It must be my imagination, or seeing angles of the Discovery's spine that you have not seen before, because of the 'common' views of her (him?).

I cut out a paper nut face. Exactly the same as the metal one. The only measurable difference is the hole. The metal nut has not been bored out to 8mm yet (to match the pipe) and does not require a wrap, so the diameter is smaller. So that all sits spot on....
The metal nuts had a wrap added, but this was done with 80 gsm paper and well burnished, so the extra thickness should be almost negligable.

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So, it isn't the nuts...... bounce7

Here is a shot of the spine mounts from up close and personal..

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And a comparison shot (or as close as I could get it) to the 'classic' movie shot......

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Maybe I should stop panicking now,,, It looks ok....:eek:ops:

It still doesnt ring 100% true to my eye, but that could be to do with depth of field, and all sorts........

I think that things are going so well in the build so far, that I am LOOKING for faults ....:eek:ops:

:wave:
 

DanBKing

Dan the Man
Oh, and two other comparitors I forgot......

Please excuse the space-cat...... It wants space-food.....!!

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The build will continue......

PHEW!!!

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Zathros

Oh my God, now I know where my Cat ended up at! He took off about 30 years ago!

In any event, Perspective shots can be very deceiving. I have found this out in Rhino3D, even more than I knew before. Try designing a model in the Perspective window, and when our done, it looks like something Escher would have made. Though this Lego Escher creation below is awesome. I think your model looks great, I wouldn't touch it. The only thing you could do to enhance it would be to add some panels, but even then, I don't think it's needed. Keep moving forward! :)

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DanBKing

Dan the Man
The only thing you could do to enhance it would be to add some panels, but even then, I don't think it's needed.

HAHAHAHAHAHA... Zathros, you are hilarious. You know that.... sign1

I did a quick calculation........ each module set would require an average of 14 panels (Not including sub-panels!).... The are 3 sets to a block

That would mean 42 panels per block...

There are 11 blocks........ 462 panels............
4 cuts per panel...... 1848 cuts and edge colourings.....:eek:

I like the idea, but my sanity is wearing thin as it is.......:p

Zathros, whatever it is your smoking..... I want some .......HAHAHAHA
 
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Zathros

Unfortunately, my reality is somewhat warped, by not by smoking anything. :) It would be crazy to add panels to a model like that! Unless someone developed a "Copy and Paste" that worked with paper models, I think they called it a "Replicator' in Star trek! That's what I was trying to say. Your model needs nothing. I don't have what it takes to build a model like you are doing. I sure like watching it though! :)







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Rhaven Blaack

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I have to agree with Zathros. You do not need to change anything at all. You are doing an AMAZING job on this model. Everything look FANTASTIC just the way it is. So do not worry about it.
 

vbsargent

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As the saying goes- if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And your discovery certainly isn't broken.

In all honesty the film model may well have a smaller gap where you indicated, if the nuts are not perfect hexagons with all six sides being the same length. Looking at the film model, it looks to me that the side for the gaps is maybe 75% of the length of the sides attached to the pods.

BUT- I wouldn't change anything at all were I in your shoes. There are just too many other things that might give the illusion that the gaps were smaller; not the least of which is aspect ratio- is it 16:9, 1.85:1, 2.39:1 - all of which are used in film but offer subtle differences in the perceived proportions of anything on screen.

In short- you are doing an amazing job here: don't worry about it. It looks amazing.
 

DanBKing

Dan the Man
The last vertabrae..

Thanks for all the positive input, comments and observations everybody.
Much appreciated.:thumb::thumb:

Let's just see what it looks like when its finished....:eek:ops:

I am slogging on with the last 20 modules as we speak. Should be finished the 'air-con' units by tomorrow. These are what are soooooo time consuming.
The module box itself is quick and simple, as long as you keep everything 'in shape'.. With production line methods, I can build the 20 modules quickly in about 2 hours. The jig helps to speed things up...

The air-con units kill the production time.....

But, I didnt think I would ever hear myself say this about the spine: "Nearly finished.........!" :wave7:

Next post..... The completed spine!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wave:
 

paper hollywood

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I agree that it's looking great. It just occurred to me that the original filming model may have been done on a threaded rod with standard nuts like that. Hmm.
 

DanBKing

Dan the Man
I'm done.

Thats it, I just cant do it anymore. I am completely done with it......
I am done with coupling interface flanges, coupling links, coupling cones, NUTS, air-con units, modules.....the lot.... I just cant do anymore.....

In other words: THE SPINE IS FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!

So without further ado....

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Zathros

Cool! This pic you posted looks like it's floating deep into dark space!

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trt

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It's a thing of absolute beauty. :thumb:

The module spacing looks perfect. Keep going, you are doing a fantastic job.
 
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