Accidental find

Mountain Man

Active Member
My wife went off to the antique shop today and returned with a gift for me - a little cast metal locomotive with a freight car and a passenger car, I would say somewhere around Z-scale at a guess - an old kid's toy.
 
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nachoman

got a photo? I have heard, back when cracker jacks truly had a "toy" inside, you may find something like a small locomotive or truck in there - but that surely predates me!
 

hmas

Member
By chance it's not an old style loco 4-4-0?
That would be used by a person doing 1/12 scale dolls houses have one of those trains somewhere.
 

Russ Bellinis

Active Member
By chance it's not an old style loco 4-4-0?
That would be used by a person doing 1/12 scale dolls houses have one of those trains somewhere.

It wouldn't be 1/2 inch scale since he said it is about Z scale which would make it smaller than n-scale.
 

hmas

Member
It wouldn't be 1/2 inch scale since he said it is about Z scale which would make it smaller than n-scale.

Yes I know the train would be smaller Z is about 1/220 scale!
I never said it was 1/12 scale. Only that a person doing dolls houses might use it.
Which in a 1/12 scale dolls house makes the train about a G gauge sized train.
ie scale down a loco to 1/12 scale, which then becomes full size for that scale, then you scale the loco down again to make a childs toy.
FWIW the Chinese make these little trains for the doll house markets, quite possibly it's only a few yrs old anyway.
 

Mountain Man

Active Member
Got the pictures, but Photobucket will not cooperate with the upload, probably due to my being "technically challenged."

I will have to do it the old way, to Sprint site, then Photobucket, then here....sigh...

Addendum: I apologize for my error - the toys are actually very close to N-scale. The only markings on them are TOOTSIETOY, and the locomotive is a 2-6-0.
 

Russ Bellinis

Active Member
I think "Tootsietoys" were made in the UK and were a popular line of small vehicles, mostly trucks and cars, but I guess trains also. I think when Mattel came out with the "Matchbox" series of race car sets, they pretty much took over the Tootsietoy market.
 

Mountain Man

Active Member
The cars aren't entirely right, but this is the locomotive and the freight car:

tootsietoy.jpg


I hate postinbg pics...wall1
 

Ralph

Remember...it's for fun!
I remember that Tootsie pop commercial with the owl. :)

MM, I like that set! The artwork on the packaging is cool too!

Ralph
 

Squidbait

Recovering ALCO-holic
Interesting. A little Googling reveals that that's a TootsieToy #186 Freight Train set. Near as I can tell, it's prewar. Estimated value between $200-300 by greedy auctioneers, usual selling price on feebay ~$100-150.

TootsieToy is America's oldest toy manufactuer, apparently.
 
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