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Packers#1

Ultimate Packers Fan
Yes, back to F units, looks like. Here's Norfolk Southern F9A #4270, works on their business train:
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Took that during Masters week last year.
 

Squidbait

Recovering ALCO-holic
Charlie, I always thought that it was a hammerhead RS3. A steam generator was jammed into the short hood, but the hood was too short vertically... so they raised the roof.

Doing a little research, I see that some rosters for WM list the 193 and 196 as RS3M's, but AFAIK, M implies a rebuild, like GB&W's, Conrail's, D&M's. Also AFAIK the WM RS3's came from Schenectady with the steam gennys.
 

UP SD40-2

Senior Member
the CNW had four of those engines like the WM posted, if i remember correctly they were acquired from the Pennsy, i could have swore i read those were factory made:confused: .
 

Sarge_7

Member
Here is some info, pic and link I found about the "Hammerhead"

http://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/lv211/index.htm


This unit was built by Alco-GE for the Pennsylvania Railroad in December 1953 and was delivered as PRR 8445. It is unique in that it has a raised short hood used to house the dynamic brakes and a steam generator for heating passenger cars. For obvious reasons it soon got the nickname "Hammer Head".
This unit is one of five RS3's equipped with both dynamic brakes and a steam generator. PRR 8445 was built especially for helper service between Emporium and Keating Summit, Pa., on the Harrisburg-Buffalo line. The steam generator was installed to permit the 8445 to protect the passenger schedules on the line between Emporium and Erie in the event of a failure by the normally-assigned E8's.
 

Sarge_7

Member
I deleted the pic because I didn't take it and only had it there for info purposes, but it is at the link provided with some more info on the unit:mrgreen:
 

UP SD40-2

Senior Member
OK Deano, I've seen it. That is an RSD5m I believe. Leave it up for a little while at least so others can see and comment.
Charlie
i cant leave it up long Charlie, this forums rules state pics NOT taken by the poster must be a link or have a link to it, copy write stuff ya know...:winki: . this pic is one from my private collection.
 

Squidbait

Recovering ALCO-holic
This unit is one of five RS3's equipped with both dynamic brakes and a steam generator.

AHA! That's the missing piece of the puzzle! Dynamic brakes! The tall steam genny explanation wasn't sitting well with me... I knew I was forgetting something!:v8:
 

Squidbait

Recovering ALCO-holic
the CNW had four of those engines like the WM posted, if i remember correctly they were acquired from the Pennsy, i could have swore i read those were factory made:confused: .

C&NW had RSD5 hammerheads... not so sure about RS3's. :confused:

*edit* OK, sorry. The pic came and went before I had a chance to see it, and I didn't see Charlie's link. I like my link better though. :p
 

Squidbait

Recovering ALCO-holic
Charlie, that's where Alco stuck 'em on early models. I believe the vent/louver to dissipate the heat was on top of the short hood along with the steam genny's exhaust.

All the dynamic brake really is is a big resistor grid. You blow air over it to cool it off... so all you need is space for a grid and a fan, and that's it. My guess is that on those early RS/RSD's there wasn't any spare room in the long hood for it. Once Alco raised the height of the long hood on later RS/RSD's, they could move the dynamics back over the generator above the cab.
 
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