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green_elite_cab

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Canopus said:
Currently your layout consists of grass mat, some unballasted track, and a few buildings. There are some people who would rather die than have a layout that basic, and would strive for professional quality perfection even if they were living under the poverty line. It just depends on how seriously you take it. Obviously you're just in it for a bit of fun... for others it's a lot deeper than that. They think nothing of taking a dremel to a brand new Atlas locomotive. So repainting a 2000 dollar model wouldn't surprise me... I've certainly seen worse. Of course we can advise him against it, but it gets to a point where you wonder why you bother; you might as well advise people against the hobby entirely. :thumb:

exactly my problem, lol. i'm torn between that dremel tool and my models. I have an old C44-9W that i finally broke down and tried to cut down and modify for an E60CP frame, and today i decided to cut half the fuel tank off a athearn GP50 so my GP40FH-2 could have an accurate frame. I don't want to cut them, its tough afrustrating, and you can never re use it for anything else, but i suppose you have to do it at some point or another!
 

Seaboard

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Canopus said:
Currently your layout consists of grass mat, some unballasted track, and a few buildings. There are some people who would rather die than have a layout that basic, and would strive for professional quality perfection even if they were living under the poverty line. It just depends on how seriously you take it. Obviously you're just in it for a bit of fun... for others it's a lot deeper than that. They think nothing of taking a dremel to a brand new Atlas locomotive. So repainting a 2000 dollar model wouldn't surprise me... I've certainly seen worse. Of course we can advise him against it, but it gets to a point where you wonder why you bother; you might as well advise people against the hobby entirely. :thumb:

Sorry bout that I kinda got carried away on that, I understand wanting to have a train of such proportions and in my own paint scheme. Believe me Iv'e dreamed to haveing something like that.
It would look cool though I must say.
Believe Me, I'm A die hard SAL Fan.
It's not a very popular RR either.
My layout has changed. I had stuff in the pictures you see as the placement of were to go
and when I'm going to add the accessories. I have alot of stuff to get done around here, and don't have the time to get some building done on my layout. I wish I DID!
That is not what it's supposed to look like in the future either. I have alot to go on it.
It's supposed to be my Savannah to Jacksonville layout based on real RR plans, The mat grass is the base and I havent added the town module yet. I do need to get more pictures there too.
Sorry CNWman
 
I will NEVER take a tool of any kind to any one of my locos or rolling stock unless it's just for routine maintenance. I do not really care if they look "right" or not...
 

green_elite_cab

Keep It Moving!
Don't be a baby

join the kitbashing side. we have cookies.

but seriously, despite what i said cuttind down my frames, you'll find that it is really not that bad. in many cases, all you need to do is drill a few extremely tiny holes for most added on details, and in many cases their are dimples that give you the correct spot to install said details.

the only times where it becomes hard to shove a tool of some kind into my locomotives is when i need to do something super major, like cutting down a rame for instance, or modifying a locomotive's shell in major way, such as making a High nosed GP50 from a low nosed one. As screw up there can result in problems.

don't be afraid to try new things though. you'll find that making things "look right" isn't really that dangerous or intimidating at all.
 

PRRman

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HERESY!

you do not paint over PRR locomotives. the last railroad that tried to do that exploded in failure

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Back off, pal. This is HIS railroad, if he wants to repaint a PRR loco in CNW colors, that's his choice. Besides, CNW colors would look good on the S1...:twisted:
 

PRRman

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I'm curious, why would they buy an engine that wouldn't run on their tracks?? Was it one of those "It seemed like a good idea at the time" things? :D :D :D
Most likely. That's the problem with people today. They see some big, new thingamajiggerbobber and their prevailing thought is "Ooh! SHINY! Must...Have!"sign1 Still, it is a really cool looking engine. CNWman, if you do manage to get your hands on an S1, you've got to show me!:thumb:
 

PRRman

Dum-Dum Pop Addict
Yes, but it has been proven that the Big Boy was the overall best steam locomotive because of its balance of power and size. The Big Boy had the most power for its size of any steam locomotive ever; that's why it was able to pull mile-long consists up Sherman Hill alone.
iViva Big Boy!:inw:
 
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lester perry

HERESY!

you do not paint over PRR locomotives. the last railroad that tried to do that exploded in failure

in any event, it would be cool to have an S1. BLI and bowser did make a T1, maybe they will make an S1. theonly problem is in real life, the S1 had real radious problems. a model would surely be so handicapped.

I thought that conrail was the fed bailout of penn central wich was the remains of two failed railroads ( PRR & NYC )that merged in desperation. and conrail WAS blue and is now either bl&whit or blue &gold
 

Triplex

Active Member
More than just PC - try Erie-Lackawanna, Reading, Lehigh Valley, Central of New Jersey, Lehigh & Hudson River and a couple shortlines as well.
 
But CR wasn't cursed. CR didn't paint over the Mighty Pennsy, the PC did. CR revived the rotten corpse of the corporation that painted over the Mighty Pennsy. You just don't paint over PRR.:cry:

Anyway we all know it is his RR and he can do what he wants. The "You DON'T paint over PRR" talk is in jest. :)

As for who has the largest... uh... locomotive... I won't touch that one.:mrgreen:


I would like to point out, though, that a Duplex and a Malley are similar, but different beasts.

Dave
 
Wow, I never expected to see this revived...

Ok. Just want to get one thing outta the way. When I first posted, I had just begun getting into the hobby and wasn't all that "learned" on locos. I have since learned that the Big Boy was indeed not the "best" of anything except at what it was built for. HOWEVER. I do believe that it was the single most famous steamer besides the SP GS-4 Daylighters. I hold that this is due to Union Pacific plastering the beast on EVERY POSTER FROM HERE TO HADES AND BACK the moment Big Boy #4000 hit the rails...

AND. In response to someone saying "Athearn makes a DD40, but you'd need a safety cab." Athearn made a very bad model of a DD35A. Union Pacific #70 (Athearn's only offered road number) was a DD35A. If you want a DD40AX that you don't have to hack apart to finish, Bachmann makes one. Athearn's will outpull Bachmann's with little to no effort owing to an all-metal frame, mostly metal trucks, and TWO MOTORS. The Bachmann is far more accurate to a DD40AX though.
 

Triplex

Active Member
AND. In response to someone saying "Athearn makes a DD40, but you'd need a safety cab." Athearn made a very bad model of a DD35A.
Wasn't that actually a model of the proposed-but-never-built-in-reality 6000-hp standard-nose DD40?
 
They had to be pretty heavy on the axel loading even with the 6 front and 6 rear, with 2 big cylinders driving only 4 wheels each there and to be some bad slip, too bad they hadnt faced the 2nd set backwards like some,, then coupled them all together so they pulled more evenly,, but i guess the reciprocating weight is what they were trying to keep to a min.
 
It has been found that facing a set of wheels backwards causes the inside of the pistons to become unnaturally dirty and jam up more frequently.

I have a 6-4-4-6 in Trainz 2006, but that's not real life.
 

EsPeeMEC

New Member
I love the UP Big boy! Was never outpowered until GE unvieled the DD40XX.

Speaking of the DD40XX, anyone know if one in HO scale exists?

GE NEVER, but NEVER, unveiled a DD40anything - ElectroMotive were responsible for that particular device, which they built for the Yellow Peril (sorry, the Union Pacific; really not sorry).

I've got a brass DD40AX:eek:ops:, and a DD35 booster unit - the 40's going up for sale in the new year, but the 35 gives me a problem: my heart says paint it for a proper road as EsPee 9900 while my head says paint it Armour Yellow (yeugh!):wave:
 

rogerw

Active Member
I have a athearn DD something Its labled dd40 2 motors on the side of the box. Where is a good place to look for the differances on 40, 35, ax on prototypical locos? Thanks
 
There were only 3 DD models, the DD35, DD35A, and DDA40X. The DD35 came first and was basically 2 GP35s back to back on a common frame, except it had no cab. They were meant to be run with GP35s in A-B-A or A-B-B-A consists. The DD35A was introduced later and is a cab version of the DD35. Since the cabless version was a DD35, the A was added to the DD35A to differentiate between the 2. SP had DD35As and DD35s, I don't know if UP had any.

The DDA40X was basically 2 GP40s on a common frame. It had flared radiators and a wide body cab. This is the UP 6900 series that is so famous.

The Bachmann model is a DDA40X. The athearn appears to have a narrow cab and flared radiators so it is either a DD35A with the wrong radiators or a DDA40X with the wrong cab.

Dave
 

Triplex

Active Member
The athearn appears to have a narrow cab and flared radiators so it is either a DD35A with the wrong radiators or a DDA40X with the wrong cab.
DD35s don't have flared radiators... but DD35As do. I think this was to hold down the overall length of the engine.
 
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