BSG Defender

Sky Seeker

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Here's a new post.

This is the side before the new additions.
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New side parts.
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Side parts with layering. The parts are cut out like what has been done with the previous parts. The parts to be raised are cut out and glued separately. See below.

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The parts are cut out and separated. Both parts have dual layers
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The parts glued together.
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Sky Seeker

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Another post.

This is for the section with multiple raised layers.
Individual nested sections have been cut out.
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Sections mounted on cardstock for lamination.
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The white pieces to be placed inside of the cut pieces. I found in the previous post when you laminate without filling the cut out space first sometime it doesn't fit quite right. So what you do instead, after you cut out the center sections of the pieces (see below) and before you mount them to the cardstock, you trace the inside on another piece of cardstock like below. Then, cut the pieces out like the pieces above the mounted pieces.
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The traced pieces glued to the center on the mounted pieces, which have been cut out. The parts with the "3" on it indicate that this is the 3rd layer that has been added to the piece. All pieces with the exception of the bottom pieces have been layered 3 times.
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Pieces assembled. Before the final mounting, the inside and outer edges are colored with pencil to reduce glare and make the piece blend in with the model.
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Both pieces assembled.
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Final mounting. All pieces from the previous post have been fitted onto the model as well.
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Angled view.
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That's it for now. 3 more sides need to be done.

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Rhaven Blaack

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I really love the detail! The layering is really giving this model a great deal of dimension and bringing it to life!!!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
 

Chadepotts1273

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I love it! That model is looking awesome!:Bravo: I only hope my own build of the Defender will look half as good as yours when I get to building it. Your patience really shows in the excellent quality of work. Thanks for the new pics! :)
 

Sky Seeker

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I love it! That model is looking awesome!:Bravo: I only hope my own build of the Defender will look half as good as yours when I get to building it. Your patience really shows in the excellent quality of work. Thanks for the new pics! :)

Chad,

I think my patience is actually wearing thin, but I'm glad you're enjoying the model. The turrets can be quite tricky on this model as well as some of the other features like the nacelles on the side of the main engines. Pay close attention to how the glue sets otherwise you'll end up with the situation I've got on the left side nacelle of the left engine.

Some of the greebling / detailing on this model is quite small so you and your tweezers will become quite close friends.

Judging by what you've done so far on the rest of your fleet it should turn out pretty good. Your skills have come a long way from when you started.

Thanks for stopping by and your kind words.

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Sky Seeker

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I really love the detail! The layering is really giving this model a great deal of dimension and bringing it to life!!!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!

Rhaven,

Wow! Thanks for your words of praise there! There's more to do, but those sections that ended up with 8 layers of card stock worked out pretty well. It's also pretty solid too. The details also seem to reinforce the surface of the model making it somewhat stronger on the outside.

Still the strength of the model is the internal reinforcement.

Thanks for stopping on by Rhaven.

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Sky Seeker

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Hey everyone! I'm almost done with the detailing of the left engine.

The bottom section with the dots is for the bottom section of the left engine. The top cut outs are for the top inside portion of the engine.
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inside portion of the left engine greebled. Note the far right side where the detailing appears to fold over - it actually DOES fold over.
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That's it for now.

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zathros

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No, you're not over doing it at all. I would remind you that two part steel epoxy works great for tubing and the like, and making parts which are a bit organic, as this stuff files fantastically with machinists files, you can make anything out of it. You can drill and tap it, which makes it great for the insides, i.e., a place to mount a stand. I also use it for making molds. I make windshield canopies, and make them while they are mounted on a stick. When dry, I use my machinists files to file any lines I made need. Mounting my Mold on a Stick, I then hear some thin blister packaging, and when it is extremely pliable, I pull in over the well mounted "Mold on a Stick", and "Voila!" Instant windshield canopy. You then trim to size, which is nice because you can trim points to mount hinges, canopy slide rails, etc. ;)
 

Sky Seeker

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No, you're not over doing it at all. I would remind you that two part steel epoxy works great for tubing and the like, and making parts which are a bit organic, as this stuff files fantastically with machinists files, you can make anything out of it. You can drill and tap it, which makes it great for the insides, i.e., a place to mount a stand. I also use it for making molds. I make windshield canopies, and make them while they are mounted on a stick. When dry, I use my machinists files to file any lines I made need. Mounting my Mold on a Stick, I then hear some thin blister packaging, and when it is extremely pliable, I pull in over the well mounted "Mold on a Stick", and "Voila!" Instant windshield canopy. You then trim to size, which is nice because you can trim points to mount hinges, canopy slide rails, etc. ;)

Z -

Nice technique, I'm not sure where I'd put the rods and stuff. The technique would work pretty well for a canopy of an Astroracer I've got printed out.

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i dont think that you are over doing it at all! i love seeing this, i think you are making it very real! please dont take anythig i say the wrong way, i think this hobby is the greatest thing! and greebling out all the parts and detailing these ships is just fantastic skill i admire very much.
and am looking forward to greebbling out a K'tinga klingon, plates, wires, even painting on the rust. the omega ship is stuck with 1, i have to build the crew section, then i have to make it rotate, im not sure how yet, i might just make it part of the stand and run it straight up next to the rotating part. zathros said something about a rubberband gear system. but i have been sick. might as well spill my guts, they discovered a tumor after christmas, and then declared it benign, and then said it shrunk away, and then said its still there, on my spine. also i have had this desert flue for 3 weeks and it usually runs 4 weeks.
i have lost 15 pounds.
im working on build pics of the first try at the k'tinga i built in my spare time this month. i will post them soon.
 

Rhaven Blaack

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@Sky Seeker, I have to agree with @zathros. You can not over do the greebles.
I have always liked pushing the envelope when it comes to adding greebles and making the models that I build as detailed as possible.
I think that you are doing a FAN(FRAKKING)TASTIC JOB on this project! So GREEBLE ON!!!
 

Chadepotts1273

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I think I had a little tear try to pop out of my eye seeing these new pics! The work you're doing here is just amazing!:Bravo: I was just wondering if I was overdoing the greebles on my own Geminon Traveler build, but seeing the overwhelming success of the greebling you've done here & reading everyone else's positive feedback is very encouraging. & just so you know, you've been my primary inspiration for experimenting with my own greebles. I mean that sincerely! So I heartily agree with the others, Greeble on! So say we all!:adamicon:Claphands & Thanks for sharing!:)
 

Sky Seeker

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I think I had a little tear try to pop out of my eye seeing these new pics! The work you're doing here is just amazing!:Bravo: I was just wondering if I was overdoing the greebles on my own Geminon Traveler build, but seeing the overwhelming success of the greebling you've done here & reading everyone else's positive feedback is very encouraging. & just so you know, you've been my primary inspiration for experimenting with my own greebles. I mean that sincerely! So I heartily agree with the others, Greeble on! So say we all!:adamicon:Claphands & Thanks for sharing!:)

Chad,

Wow!! Thank you VERY much for you kind words!:) I'm glad to be an inspiration to you in this.

My inspiration for doing this was from Revell Fan's work on the triangle ship and DanBKings work on the Discovery from 2001. If you haven't seen them check them out. Dan's work on his project was about 2 YEARS+ in the making - quite a thread and an inspiring life journey as well as a making of a model.

Also, Zathros comment when I started out on this was "I'd greeble the hell out of that that ship". I took his words to heart - obviously.

This greebling on the ship takes time, but it gives one a lot of practice with making small cuts, which, after time, gets faster with practice.

Thanks again your work is also inspiring as well.

Take care my friend.

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