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Buck Rogers Cargo Sled
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It also looks like they put really small windows in the wrong places, not the correct ones, but the rest looks cool!
I am a little late to the party, (about 2 years). Revell-Fan finding out that I contributed in some small part to this has really thrilled me. I wanted to delve into this hobby with both feet but losing my regular job, only getting part-time temp jobs and living with family who wouldn't understand why I was making a model rather than looking for permanent, full-time employment has prevented me from really getting involved. This ship has eluded me for years. I could not have figured this out and I praise you for your hard work. I may have some items I can start posting about in the coming weeks but hands down, this is the definitive Cargo Sled model.
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That's a hard situation. Making Paper Models can relieve a lot of stress. It's bettter than drinking a few six packs because your bummed out. Sometimes family is fantastic, but sometimes, well, we all know the story. I hope things get better, and you should drop around more often, you don't need to post models, design models. Your input can help people who may be having problems. Help from people with who have knowledge is a great contribution.
@johnmiic : YAY, GREAT to see you here again!
I agree with Zathros.
Your blueprint and the unfinished scratch-build of Mark Bradley gave me excellent insights of the real thing (many thanks for that again to both of you ).
I started with your sketch and found some things which did not correspond too well to the original model. Then I studied Mark's build which had some measurements but also some issues in certain areas (which I suppose was the reason why he did not finish the model). The main bugger was the "chin" (= the "edge" in the lower fuselage right below the cockpit). No matter what I did it threw things way off. It is there but if I made it as deep as Mark suggested the look was just not right. So I reduced it to a "medium size chin" which made it look much more "on-screen". I do not claim that my design is flawless but it is what I like best at the moment. And most of all, the shapes are very easy, thus this should be a model for beginners. I'm sure you will have fun with it.
BTW, do you need any 2D renderings for comparison to update your sketch? I'd be happy to post them here.
I agree with Zathros.
Your blueprint and the unfinished scratch-build of Mark Bradley gave me excellent insights of the real thing (many thanks for that again to both of you
). I started with your sketch and found some things which did not correspond too well to the original model. Then I studied Mark's build which had some measurements but also some issues in certain areas (which I suppose was the reason why he did not finish the model). The main bugger was the "chin" (= the "edge" in the lower fuselage right below the cockpit). No matter what I did it threw things way off. It is there but if I made it as deep as Mark suggested the look was just not right. So I reduced it to a "medium size chin" which made it look much more "on-screen". I do not claim that my design is flawless but it is what I like best at the moment. And most of all, the shapes are very easy, thus this should be a model for beginners. I'm sure you will have fun with it.
BTW, do you need any 2D renderings for comparison to update your sketch? I'd be happy to post them here.
The replies here leave me misty-eyed. Thanks Folks!
@Revell-Fan, If you could do the cargo-sled from the angles I originally put together that would be great. Really, you should also start an account at Deviantart.com and you can network. I'm sure a lot of people would love to see your views/blueprints of it there as well.
Let me also recommend these Facebook Pages: The Original Battlestar Galactica Models page for many Galactica/Buck rare photos of models, Ralph McQuarrie, (for original paintings of the cargo sled and other early Star Wars/Galactica paintings) and Joe Johnston Sketchbook.
What always concerned me was the "chin" on the front/underside. I've seen Mark Bradley's excellent model. I love it but thought the "chin" only reflected the shape as the model had been modified or the episode Olympiad. I emailed Ken Larson who runs the Universal Heartland website where he posts rare behind-the-scenes photos of the models from Buck & Galactica and he said the leading edge was very thin and blade-like. I always thought that meant it was a straight line from the leading edge on the underside up to the rear section where the intakes/winglets rose up. Even with screen-shots it is very difficult to tell what the angles are like on the underside. For some reason they never photographed the underside on the BattleBuck website.
@Revell-Fan, If you could do the cargo-sled from the angles I originally put together that would be great. Really, you should also start an account at Deviantart.com and you can network. I'm sure a lot of people would love to see your views/blueprints of it there as well.
Let me also recommend these Facebook Pages: The Original Battlestar Galactica Models page for many Galactica/Buck rare photos of models, Ralph McQuarrie, (for original paintings of the cargo sled and other early Star Wars/Galactica paintings) and Joe Johnston Sketchbook.
What always concerned me was the "chin" on the front/underside. I've seen Mark Bradley's excellent model. I love it but thought the "chin" only reflected the shape as the model had been modified or the episode Olympiad. I emailed Ken Larson who runs the Universal Heartland website where he posts rare behind-the-scenes photos of the models from Buck & Galactica and he said the leading edge was very thin and blade-like. I always thought that meant it was a straight line from the leading edge on the underside up to the rear section where the intakes/winglets rose up. Even with screen-shots it is very difficult to tell what the angles are like on the underside. For some reason they never photographed the underside on the BattleBuck website.
YESSSS!!! I guess that's where the rub is. I made is as flat as possible and it looked so much better. If you extend the chin the leading edge will start to look blocky. As you know I have taken the measurements from the Monogram Cylon Raider which I have at my stash to determine the original size of the model. It should not be a big problem to use plasticard and the original greeblies to build a studio scale replica. I'll post some renderings later.
@johnmiic : Hi John! 
Sorry for the wait but here the some straight views of my model. I don't claim it is 100 % accurate but it looks the best it can to me. They are all the same scale. Unfortunately SketchUp adds a light tint to the images. Feel free to edit them further, delete the visible folding lines when necessary, trace it and / or change the colours.
Sorry for the wait but here the some straight views of my model. I don't claim it is 100 % accurate but it looks the best it can to me. They are all the same scale. Unfortunately SketchUp adds a light tint to the images. Feel free to edit them further, delete the visible folding lines when necessary, trace it and / or change the colours.
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Ooooohhhhhh! That is fantastic! The side views looks like the on-set cut-out used in some episodes. I want to see the renders too! Great work!
I would love to build this. I am willing to do the beta test build.
It would be a GREAT addition to the BRTC25 collection!
It would be a GREAT addition to the BRTC25 collection!
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Erh, I really have to get going. At the moment I'm cleaning my flat, throwing out the garbage and so on, which limits building time. However, I'll have some holidays soon..!
Is someone begging for the model?
Alright, I'll send it to you. But be warned - it was designed for unfolding only, so there are no 3D surface details whatsoever.
Alright, I'll send it to you. But be warned - it was designed for unfolding only, so there are no 3D surface details whatsoever.
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I was going to make the model from your drawings, but if you want to send the "model", I'd love to play around with it. Strictly to do just that. It''s your model and I won't do anything other than post some Renders and play with some textures (which I suck at).
I'm looking forward to seeing the results! Have fun with it!
The real magic begins when I'm making the skeleton and putting together the single unfolded parts (there are a few lines visible which are necessary to close the faces but which will be omitted when the parts are unfolded, especially at the rim of the wings).
Have fun with it! The real magic begins when I'm making the skeleton and putting together the single unfolded parts (there are a few lines visible which are necessary to close the faces but which will be omitted when the parts are unfolded, especially at the rim of the wings).
I have just found a picture which I have not shown here before. This is a "chopping map" explaining which parts of the Monogram Cylon Raider were used.
