Ebay Pirate Alert!

57townsman · 04-16-2007, 02:23 PM

Everyone,

A new pirate has appeared on ebay with the user name sullyman22. He currently has 8 auctions going for a zillion models. Most of the models are freely available on the net BUT I see dozens from designers here. If you want to enforce your copyright this is the time!

SteveK

57townsman · 04-16-2007, 02:23 PM

Everyone,

A new pirate has appeared on ebay with the user name sullyman22. He currently has 8 auctions going for a zillion models. Most of the models are freely available on the net BUT I see dozens from designers here. If you want to enforce your copyright this is the time!

SteveK

MOS95B · 04-16-2007, 02:26 PM

The saddest part of this, outside of copywright violations, is the poor buyer that ends up wasting their money on a free product (if they even get it)

MOS95B · 04-16-2007, 02:26 PM

The saddest part of this, outside of copywright violations, is the poor buyer that ends up wasting their money on a free product (if they even get it)

imavingalaughaswell · 04-16-2007, 03:03 PM

i have recently joined ebay

and i found the report button!!!!!!

imavingalaughaswell · 04-16-2007, 03:03 PM

i have recently joined ebay

and i found the report button!!!!!!

04-16-2007, 03:24 PM

OK...there's a LOT of models by guys that frequent this board....I do have one question...in his SciFi DVD, there's a model on the bottom center that looks like the Interstellar Queen from the TTA thread....or am I just seeing things?

04-16-2007, 03:24 PM

OK...there's a LOT of models by guys that frequent this board....I do have one question...in his SciFi DVD, there's a model on the bottom center that looks like the Interstellar Queen from the TTA thread....or am I just seeing things?

Stev0 · 04-16-2007, 03:42 PM

There are A LOT of models from members right on this very board.

Shut em down. Personally ... I'd contact a lawyer.

Stev0 · 04-16-2007, 03:42 PM

There are A LOT of models from members right on this very board.

Shut em down. Personally ... I'd contact a lawyer.

sneaker · 04-16-2007, 04:09 PM

Uh! not to step on anyones toes, but the seller does state in his description that the models are freely available on the web. He is selling the time and effort searching, collection, and putting them out on a dvd or cd-roms. I do not condone piracy, but he states flat out that they are available freely on the web. He should however ask for permisson from each and every author if it is ok to publish/package their respected works on a collection dvd-cd. And ask for permission to use the Author's photos. I am only pointing out what is in the description because, pretty much that covers his butt. You are basically paying someone to collect and burn paper models onto a medium for your own personal use. Anyone else have any insight to this kind of situation?

David

sneaker · 04-16-2007, 04:09 PM

Uh! not to step on anyones toes, but the seller does state in his description that the models are freely available on the web. He is selling the time and effort searching, collection, and putting them out on a dvd or cd-roms. I do not condone piracy, but he states flat out that they are available freely on the web. He should however ask for permisson from each and every author if it is ok to publish/package their respected works on a collection dvd-cd. And ask for permission to use the Author's photos. I am only pointing out what is in the description because, pretty much that covers his butt. You are basically paying someone to collect and burn paper models onto a medium for your own personal use. Anyone else have any insight to this kind of situation?

David

MOS95B · 04-16-2007, 04:16 PM

Very thin line in my opinion. A lot of the models I have collected specifically state they can not be sold. Those are definitely covered, again in my non-lawyer opinion.

I can sort of understand what the seller is probably thinking "I'm not seeling the models, but the medium". This really doesn't sit right with me, though. It's like re-typing a book, and then selling the document. It's still ditributing intellectual property without the author's permission.

Too bad we don't have any lawyers on the forum....

MOS95B · 04-16-2007, 04:16 PM

Very thin line in my opinion. A lot of the models I have collected specifically state they can not be sold. Those are definitely covered, again in my non-lawyer opinion.

I can sort of understand what the seller is probably thinking "I'm not seeling the models, but the medium". This really doesn't sit right with me, though. It's like re-typing a book, and then selling the document. It's still ditributing intellectual property without the author's permission.

Too bad we don't have any lawyers on the forum....

sneaker · 04-16-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOS95B

Very thin line in my opinion.

Oh! I am in full agreement with you. I have gone after sellers trying to sell card models before (see http://www.cardmodels.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6560 ). I just wanted to point out what was in the seller's description, as this does tend to be a sticky area!

(yeah! where are the lawyers, gotta be one somewhere around here)

04-16-2007, 02:23 PM	#1
57townsman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 435 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 2	Ebay Pirate Alert! Everyone, A new pirate has appeared on ebay with the user name sullyman22. He currently has 8 auctions going for a zillion models. Most of the models are freely available on the net BUT I see dozens from designers here. If you want to enforce your copyright this is the time! SteveK __________________ Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-16-2007, 02:23 PM	#2
57townsman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 435 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 2	Ebay Pirate Alert! Everyone, A new pirate has appeared on ebay with the user name sullyman22. He currently has 8 auctions going for a zillion models. Most of the models are freely available on the net BUT I see dozens from designers here. If you want to enforce your copyright this is the time! SteveK __________________ Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-16-2007, 02:26 PM	#3
MOS95B Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Robbinsdale MN USA Posts: 926 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	The saddest part of this, outside of copywright violations, is the poor buyer that ends up wasting their money on a free product (if they even get it) __________________ Scientists have shown that the moon is moving away at a tiny yet measurable distance from the earth every year. If you do the math, you can calculate that 85 million years ago the moon was orbiting the earth at a distance of about 35 feet from the earth's surface. This would explain the death of the dinosaurs. The tallest ones, anyway.

04-16-2007, 02:26 PM	#4
MOS95B Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Robbinsdale MN USA Posts: 926 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	The saddest part of this, outside of copywright violations, is the poor buyer that ends up wasting their money on a free product (if they even get it) __________________ Scientists have shown that the moon is moving away at a tiny yet measurable distance from the earth every year. If you do the math, you can calculate that 85 million years ago the moon was orbiting the earth at a distance of about 35 feet from the earth's surface. This would explain the death of the dinosaurs. The tallest ones, anyway.

04-16-2007, 03:03 PM	#5
imavingalaughaswell Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 251 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 2	reported i have recently joined ebay and i found the report button!!!!!! __________________ _________________ Currently Building: Liebherr 1200-9.1 Progress:0.1% maybe? Part Count:360

04-16-2007, 03:24 PM	#7
ARMORMAN Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	OK...there's a LOT of models by guys that frequent this board....I do have one question...in his SciFi DVD, there's a model on the bottom center that looks like the Interstellar Queen from the TTA thread....or am I just seeing things?

04-16-2007, 03:42 PM	#9
Stev0 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,585 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	There are A LOT of models from members right on this very board. Shut em down. Personally ... I'd contact a lawyer.

04-16-2007, 04:09 PM	#11
sneaker Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 130 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Uh! not to step on anyones toes, but the seller does state in his description that the models are freely available on the web. He is selling the time and effort searching, collection, and putting them out on a dvd or cd-roms. I do not condone piracy, but he states flat out that they are available freely on the web. He should however ask for permisson from each and every author if it is ok to publish/package their respected works on a collection dvd-cd. And ask for permission to use the Author's photos. I am only pointing out what is in the description because, pretty much that covers his butt. You are basically paying someone to collect and burn paper models onto a medium for your own personal use. Anyone else have any insight to this kind of situation? David

04-16-2007, 04:16 PM	#13
MOS95B Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Robbinsdale MN USA Posts: 926 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Very thin line in my opinion. A lot of the models I have collected specifically state they can not be sold. Those are definitely covered, again in my non-lawyer opinion. I can sort of understand what the seller is probably thinking "I'm not seeling the models, but the medium". This really doesn't sit right with me, though. It's like re-typing a book, and then selling the document. It's still ditributing intellectual property without the author's permission. Too bad we don't have any lawyers on the forum.... __________________ Scientists have shown that the moon is moving away at a tiny yet measurable distance from the earth every year. If you do the math, you can calculate that 85 million years ago the moon was orbiting the earth at a distance of about 35 feet from the earth's surface. This would explain the death of the dinosaurs. The tallest ones, anyway.

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