3ft Normandy SR2

[Chilihead-Do]

@Zathros:
Perhaps you scared him off, but there are rules and to create a papercraft model, it needs more than to unfold a captured ingame model and play around with pepakura.
I have no problem to build such a model, when I know to have backup from the creator.
What makes me really angry is that he throw away the model and don't even answer to my pm if he agree to send me the unlocked .pdo file.
So he avoids any chances to correct his work.
Sorry, but in my opinion he behaves as a kid with a stolen soother.

Well, I don't want to go that far, but I would like to keep a standard of behavior, and that standard is what I have observed from the members here. I came on as a moderator, and saw people behaving on a level that most forums could only dream of. I wish to maintain this level of civility to the best of my ability. I would hope he comes back. I doubt it, but I do hope he comes back and finishes the model.

When you see someone like Sjssquirrel, working to make a model, to perfection, engaging the community,while building the model. Doing the graphics and making something listening, and involving himself and others, that, is truly "Designing a model". He sets a high standard. Not only as a designer, but as a member. His standard is not one to run away from, but one to embrace..

I pushed on this because I suspected what was happening, and I took some heat for it, but I am trying to protect those who are members of this community, and deserve honest, straiht forward information about any model that is offered up to build.


Expecting someone to print out 52 pages worth of anything, and not having even built the model, it is absolutely pretentious and callous. It will not be allowed.

Just a simple statement, "I have not built this model, this is an experiment, build at your own risk", would have prevented of this. Abandoning this model like this means I personally offer no protection for it, and I don't care what happens to it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with joining a forum like this and just admiring the work of others. Making comments of admiration and support do much, believe it or not. That is totally fine.

Sorry for the inconvenience I have caused..

[Millenniumfalsehood]

Some people carry their feelings about on their shoulders. Personally, I know I have released a few models without properly beta-testing them, but those models I designed from the ground up to be paper models and had a better than average chance of being buildable. I don't do that anymore, though, other than the Star Destroyers I unfolded in December, and I did provide plenty of warning that they were game files and not designed to be paper models.

Along the same subject, I believe that if you're going to post on an open forum, you should expect criticism and be able to handle it without, effectively, picking up your ball and going home. Grale was told that he needed to warn people about his model being a simple unfold, and his response was to pack up and leave without so much as a "see ya later, fellers." I find that behavior offensive to say the least, as it betrays a certain immaturity and an inability to handle being called on mistakes. I'm of the opinion that intelligent, rational people don't behave like that, and I abhor the opposite, so naturally I don't have much sympathy for Grale.

With that being said, I feel that Zathros was well within his rights to tell Grale to put up a warning or take down the model. It's not being hateful or condescending; it's a simple courtesy to do that, and to refuse to follow the honest advice of a moderator is certainly not the appropriate response to being asked to do so.

Let's not close the door on Grale though. He certainly has promise. I would like to see him continue. If he came back with that in mind, he would find me most accepting. He was not booted out of here,and was no given any infractions. I knew that e was going to generate negative sentiments though. I think he did not realize that. So, let's let it rest.

SJS is going to have the definitive model on this anyways. !

[Chilihead-Do]

I think we should let him rest.
Please don't goof on him.
Grant him a break and we'll see if he comes back and continues his work.

I agree in all terms to Zathros, but I also knew that this model was beta.
Anyway I printed it out and started to build it, knowing that there could be problems.

In my opinion the REAL problem is that he gave up this model and blocks any options to correct upcoming errors, forcing me to give up building this.
It's a pity, because this model was perfect for my RC-Submarine-Project.

[Chilihead-Do]

Due to the problems with this model I sadly give up.
I'm not in the mood to run into insolvable problems after building for weeks.
With an unlocked .pdo I would keep on trying, but no answer from Grale.

I hope he will come back and continue his nice work.

Thread can be closed.

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